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re: Curl and Spiral in Rumba
Posted by Dronak
6/25/2002  8:30:00 AM
Well, my new ISTD latin books are at home. I only have the old one with me right now. For the spiral in rumba the man's footwork is listed as ball flat throughout and the lady's as ball flat except on step 3 where it's ball flat RF, toe of LF. Cha cha looks like the same footwork, ball flat throughout for both except the lady's step 5 which is the same as rumba's step 3. The steps themselves are relatively easy, especially for the man, the trick is leading the lady's spiral turn. It seems like a lot of figures where the lead is the hard part give the man pretty simple steps so he doesn't have to think about them and can concentrate on getting the lead right. HaOanhTranThanh offered a brief description of the steps. I think right and left foot are switched though -- in syllabus Spirals and Curls, the lady should be making the spiral turn on her RF, not her LF.

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re: Curl and Spiral in Rumba
Posted by SocialDancer
6/14/2002  10:10:00 AM
As James says, a curl is just a type of spiral turn taken from open facing position. It therefore has less turn than a standard spiral and as a result, the left foot ends up crossed more loosely in front of the right than in a spiral.


Howard
Curl & Spiral
Posted by waltz2u
6/19/2002  6:32:00 PM
Thank you a lot of your response.

To Dronak: Could you give me more info on that figures (eg footwork..). Thanks

Waltz2u
re: Curl and Spiral in Rumba
Posted by HaOanhTranThanh
6/20/2002  12:50:00 AM
As far as we know the difference between Curls and Spirals as follows :

· Curls: Turn used in walk around turns and as an advanced way for women to do cross body leads. Begin with weight on right foot. Step forward with left foot, leaving right foot behind. Once weight is completely on left foot, swivel 1/2 turn counter-clockwise on the ball of the left foot, letting the hip settle or follow through on the finish.
· Spirals: Begin the same as a curl. Instead of taking the turn 1/2, dancer will be turning 3/4. When dancer turns to a point the upper legs are closed, bend the knee of the free leg, still leaving the free foot behind, almost wrapped around the supporting leg.
We hope that what we have written above is helpful.

HaOanhTranThanh
Re: Curl and Spiral in Rumba
Posted by bernasirman
12/17/2016  3:18:00 AM
Re: re: Curl and Spiral in Rumba
Posted by nloftofan1
12/17/2016  4:30:00 PM
SocialDancer: Your explanation fleshes out the details in my instructor's description of a curl: "A sloppy spiral."
Re: re: Curl and Spiral in Rumba
Posted by Guest
12/19/2016  4:50:00 AM
Spirals can be done on either foot. I always thought the Curl was more down than the Spiral. But looking at the example.s I cant see much of a difference between the two.In a Practice session I used to attend. On our own , both ladies and men, in file, we had to start in the Fan Position. Spiral to our left . Two Walks and Spiral to our right keeping a strait line down the floor to music. This was our warm up before we really got into it.
Re: re: Curl and Spiral in Rumba
Posted by nloftofan1
12/19/2016  11:32:00 AM
There is a DanceVision Silver Bolero pattern called Curl, Fan, Lunge. You can find it on YouTube, performed by Ron and Karla Montez. While a curl in Bolero may not be EXACTLY like a curl in Rumba (comments from experts?), I think it's close enough. Rumba and Bolero are at least cousins. The curl in that pattern comes after an open break. You can see it performed by some top professionals, and you can watch it as many times as you want.
Re: re: Curl and Spiral in Rumba
Posted by Guest
12/28/2016  12:51:00 AM
I think the main problem with a Spiral is trying to do the whole thing on the count of
4. 1. Instead of standing on the count of 4. and then and only then Spiral on the count of 1. In other words separate them as two distinct moves.
Re: re: Curl and Spiral in Rumba
Posted by terence2
12/29/2016  9:36:00 AM
Pretty much, most of the basic variations were taken from Bolero and Danzon ( same for mambo/chacha ) and adapted to the Intern. style .

The speed of the music for each, played a large part, in each figures construction, a good ex being the basic in each of Bolero and Rumba, both predicated on the open Box ( XBL and Fan another ex )also, the change in music...

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