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re: Curl and Spiral in Rumba
Posted by SocialDancer
6/14/2002  10:10:00 AM
As James says, a curl is just a type of spiral turn taken from open facing position. It therefore has less turn than a standard spiral and as a result, the left foot ends up crossed more loosely in front of the right than in a spiral.

Curl & Spiral
Posted by waltz2u
6/19/2002  6:32:00 PM
Thank you a lot of your response.

To Dronak: Could you give me more info on that figures (eg footwork..). Thanks

re: Curl and Spiral in Rumba
Posted by HaOanhTranThanh
6/20/2002  12:50:00 AM
As far as we know the difference between Curls and Spirals as follows :

· Curls: Turn used in walk around turns and as an advanced way for women to do cross body leads. Begin with weight on right foot. Step forward with left foot, leaving right foot behind. Once weight is completely on left foot, swivel 1/2 turn counter-clockwise on the ball of the left foot, letting the hip settle or follow through on the finish.
· Spirals: Begin the same as a curl. Instead of taking the turn 1/2, dancer will be turning 3/4. When dancer turns to a point the upper legs are closed, bend the knee of the free leg, still leaving the free foot behind, almost wrapped around the supporting leg.
We hope that what we have written above is helpful.

Re: Curl and Spiral in Rumba
Posted by bernasirman
12/17/2016  3:18:00 AM
Re: re: Curl and Spiral in Rumba
Posted by nloftofan1
12/17/2016  4:30:00 PM
SocialDancer: Your explanation fleshes out the details in my instructor's description of a curl: "A sloppy spiral."
Re: re: Curl and Spiral in Rumba
Posted by Guest
12/19/2016  4:50:00 AM
Spirals can be done on either foot. I always thought the Curl was more down than the Spiral. But looking at the example.s I cant see much of a difference between the two.In a Practice session I used to attend. On our own , both ladies and men, in file, we had to start in the Fan Position. Spiral to our left . Two Walks and Spiral to our right keeping a strait line down the floor to music. This was our warm up before we really got into it.
Re: re: Curl and Spiral in Rumba
Posted by nloftofan1
12/19/2016  11:32:00 AM
There is a DanceVision Silver Bolero pattern called Curl, Fan, Lunge. You can find it on YouTube, performed by Ron and Karla Montez. While a curl in Bolero may not be EXACTLY like a curl in Rumba (comments from experts?), I think it's close enough. Rumba and Bolero are at least cousins. The curl in that pattern comes after an open break. You can see it performed by some top professionals, and you can watch it as many times as you want.
Re: re: Curl and Spiral in Rumba
Posted by Guest
12/28/2016  12:51:00 AM
I think the main problem with a Spiral is trying to do the whole thing on the count of
4. 1. Instead of standing on the count of 4. and then and only then Spiral on the count of 1. In other words separate them as two distinct moves.
Re: re: Curl and Spiral in Rumba
Posted by terence2
12/29/2016  9:36:00 AM
Pretty much, most of the basic variations were taken from Bolero and Danzon ( same for mambo/chacha ) and adapted to the Intern. style .

The speed of the music for each, played a large part, in each figures construction, a good ex being the basic in each of Bolero and Rumba, both predicated on the open Box ( XBL and Fan another ex )also, the change in music...
Re: re: Curl and Spiral in Rumba
Posted by Guest
1/5/2017  4:00:00 PM
The Bolero. A piece of music composed by Ravel in 1928 commissioned by a Russian Ida Rubinstein actress and dancer for a Ballet.
It seems it was a solo dance at that time . Some credit for its popularity must go to film actors George Raft and Carol Lombard who in a 1934 danced the Bolero in a film of the same name. Look it up.There is a film clip which can be seen. For the records . There was already a Spanish dance called the Bolero. Its interesting to note that most of the
demonstrations take place on a large round table or stage, which points that in a market place a crowd always form a circle never a square. Even in the George Raft film they are on a circular stage possibly to stay with tradition.

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