We are saying the same thing. Yes, you should execute the elements correctly. But how they are put together in combinations is just somebody's suggested choreography. USISTD, DVIDA, Fred Astaire, and Arthur Murray (obviously I'm talking about American Style; in International Style the syllabus mostly consists of elements--a Three Step is just that, not a combination) may all have a Tango pattern that incorporates certain elements--possibly with some variation. Those patterns are close to one another but not identical. Is one more "right" than another? Possibly yes for a competition that requires a specific syllabus, but not in social dancing.
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The "component-based" syllabus makes more sense than the alternative (and is more like the International syllabus). I'm not a pro, but a local pro with many years of teaching experience has begun to teach that way. His pitch is that he's trying to teach people to dance, not to memorize patterns.
I saw an example of what can (sort of) go wrong with the choreography-based approach recently. (The names of syllabus publishers and pros are left out to protect the guilty.) I wanted to "clean up" a Silver Cha-Cha pattern I had been taught, and was able to find a YouTube video of pros teaching that very pattern (a come-on to induce people to buy the complete instructional video). In my search I also found another video, made by the same company, of different pros teaching a pattern with the identical name but some major differences--possibly a newer version of the pattern. So which is the "right" one?
The moral of the story, as I see it, is that every dance figure was made up by somebody. So why not make up your own?
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Thank you all for your responses! I appreciate hearing all of your opinions about this topic. I especially appreciate the suggestion to get the book Ballroom Dancing, and am looking forward to reading it.
I'm very interested to know what kind of boundaries all of you keep with your instructors, students, and dance partners.
I think some people (dancer) have misunderstood my intentions a bit. I really think this is an important topic to talk about, especially for new dancers, because, like it or not, there is a romantic element to dance that is easy to get caught up in if you're not expecting it. As least it was for me. Just because I fell for my teacher does not mean that I'm not working on the basics, not dancing for the sake of dancing, or "using other people's honest dilemmas as a way to enhance [my] own life". (The latter comment was so caustic. Dancer, I appreciate brutal honestly, but I don't think I meant whatever it is you think I meant.)
I'm wondering if the salsa scene where I'm at isn't just a little bit different from the usual ones. I'm living on a small island in Asia, and the dancers here are quite close to each other. We not only go to the club together, we take classes together, have dinner during the week, take weekend trips to the big city, and constantly chat together over social networking. I think that makes a bit of a difference in our emotional entanglements.
I'm thinking about tearing the original post down and beginning a new one that will get comments more in the direction of boundary keeping. Looking back, the first one sounds a little pathetic. I just find it confusing and uncomfortable when the dancers at my club start telling me that they're in love with me, especially when a few weeks later they are in love with someone else. But, never will I ever fall for another dancer again. Ever. I'm really just interested in having fun and protecting my emotions as well as the emotions of the other dancers around me while being able to dance romantically without having it go beyond just dancing. Belleofyourball, it's good to hear that that's entirely possible.
Also, there was an instructor who posted on this thread when I first wrote it who opened up about some of the training he received on how to manipulate students. Even though you deleted it, if you read this, I just want to say thank you for your honesty. Your post was so helpful, and I'm really glad I was able to read it when it was still up. I wish we all could have more open conversations about these things.
The short answer is "yes", you can use our syllabus for any NDCA competition, as all of the basic figures conform to their rules. One or two figures may contain options that aren't NDCA-compliant, but they are clearly noted.
For example, under American Waltz Hesitations, there is an option for taking a Hesitation outside partner, which is perfectly acceptable at the bronze level. We also describe the variation whereby the lady can dance a develope' action, but it is noted that this is considered to be a silver level variation, since the NDCA prohibits developes in bronze.
For a more comprehensive answer about the origins of our syllabus, please see the following message:
I enjoy the American style syllabus presented on ballroom dancers.com but I don't know what official syllabus you are using. Can I use the patterns ipresented for competing in a NDCA comp? More specifically, can I assume that your silver rhythm syllabus can be used when I am competing in silver rhythm at a NDCA comp?
If you are referring to the multiple step variations often posted for American Smooth then no, there are no international variations posted on this site. There are just American variations. You can view all syllabus steps however with the membership which is pretty cool.
If you are looking for Standard variations you can go here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77eAg7dILtI
The following is a waltz video done by Mirko and Alessia. They have a great syllabus variation for waltz here. You can search for all other variations for standard on youtube.
If you are looking for latin, I recommend Slavik and Karina's video series with Corky Ballas.
Here's a video of one of their cha cha variations: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RgMngpCWwc (This is not from the series but if you search around you can find their variations)
Hope this is at least helpful in you continuing your search for what you are looking for.
Unfortunately, VLC is a standalone player, which requires the video to be downloaded to the user's computer, rather than streamed directly from our server. The only types of player we can support are those that are widely available and can plug directly into a user's browser. By widely available, I mean ones that generally come installed on computers anyway, because we don't want to require people to download some special piece of software just to use our website. So in other words, that basically leaves us with Flash, Quicktime, Windows Media and as of late, HTML 5-based players.
Flash is what we had used for years, and it works quite well because we can purchase one of several Flash-based players that come with extra features like subtitling, support for multiple videos, playlists, commercials, etc. Most importantly, they allow us to link of the fly via XML, which makes it easy to keep the locations of our videos a secret and prevent (most) people from downloading them. However, I have not yet seen a Flash-based player that allows speed control, and I think that's due in part to the way that Flash itself streams video.
Beyond that, Flash is starting to fall out of favor, especially since it was shunned by Steve Jobs a few years back. It won't run at all on iOS, so we have since gone back to supporting Quicktime as an option for iOS, Mac, and any computer that won't play Flash for whatever reason. We would have switched to HTML 5 by now, but we're still waiting for a solution that helps us protect our videos.
The biggest problem of all with slow motion is that it's impossible to find a solution that will work on all platforms -- If it were available in Flash, that would only cover half of our audience, because we still wouldn't be able to do it through HTML 5 (which we use for mobile) or Quicktime. It seems to me that the best solution is one that doesn't require any special technology at all, and that's how we came up with the idea that a slowed-down version should be edited right into the video itself.
We also have to consider whether slow motion will still be in demand once we've added the full instruction videos across the syllabus. Once we get to the point where you can not only see it danced more slowly, but also hear it described by an instructor, one step at a time, including technical tips, multiple camera angles, close-ups, etc, I'm not sure anybody will still be asking for slow motion demos. But it is possible, because I suspect some people will still want the option to download a quick little demo without all the elaborate instruction. So we'll have to see how things go after this round of editing.
One other quick note about our videos: I realize they're extremely popular, and that for a considerable percentage of our audience, they are the only thing of real value (It's no accident that the videos are the only part of the website that we charge a premium for). But our aim is to change all that in the near future. Our vision of the product involves a much bigger picture: It's a multi-faceted approach where each piece plays an important role, and the video is just one piece of the puzzle. We want to be way more than just a source of instructional videos -- that's not what makes us unique. This is a work in progress, so it may not be apparent quite yet, but our goal is to provide a whole package, one where you wouldn't want to pick out the videos and remove them from the rest of the content. A pay-per-download model would undermine that vision, and that is why our business model is set up the way it is now.
I hope that makes sense. If not, feel free to comment or ask more questions.
My husband and I were going crazy trying to figure out how to slow down your videos. We are new to dancing, and it's very difficult to catch the steps, even after repeated views.
There is a video viewer called VLC. With this viewer, you have two options to slow down steps: slow and slower (which they call turtle).
We use this when we video steps at our dance lessons and bring them home. It's a HUGE help. Of course, the only way to legally do this with ballroomdancers.com is for you to provide that option on your website, but this could save you a great deal of time if you chose to do so.