"Foxtrot Man Feather Step there is rise at the end of step one for the man. The lady on the same step will have no rise."

Please review the standard technique, as your statement is incorrect. Both Man *and lady* have rise end of 1. Although the lady does not have foot rise here, it would be a serious mistake to say that she does not have rise.

Suomynona. The lady rises through the knees and not rising onto the toes. That's NFR. When the technique of a step calls for "No Foot Rise or no Body Rise It means that the rising action should be only taken through the straightening action of the knees, and not by rising on ones toes.
Foot rise comes from the feet and ankles. The action occurs when one rises onto the toes ( assuming the feet are flat to start with ). Jonathan . As you can see your words didn't fall on deaf ears but on open eyes.

"Suomynona. The lady rises through the knees and not rising onto the toes. That's NFR."

More of less, yes. But this is very different from your previous incorrect statement that the lady has no rise. No foot rise does not mean no rise. The lady's rise is given as the same as the man's in the feather, only with the added distinction that she does not use foot rise to achieve it.

When the technique of a step calls for "No Foot Rise or no Body Rise"

Please provide an example where "no Body rise" is used?

Suomynona. Ask Jonathan. Probobly from Henry Jaques book. If I rise through my knees then how do I not have body rise. The two are one if you read the article correctly.

No Don, we all know about "no foot rise" but what I want to know is when the "no body rise" you mentioned in this statement is called for:

"When the technique of a step calls for "No Foot Rise or no Body Rise""

Suomynona. I've got lost here a bit. If you are refering to. There is rise for the man at the end of step one ON THE SAME STEP the lady has no foot rise. That means at the same time. The lady can then use the knees to lift the body, only after the man has past.If its the part that says. When the technique calls for "No Foot Rise " or " Body Rise Only "In the direct quote I missed the Only and popped in a no.
Here is the quote as it should be.
"If the technique of a step calls for " No Foot Rise " or "Body Rise Only " it means the rising action should only be taken through the straightinig of the knees and not by rising on ones toes. I think that might clear things up. >

Don
You wrote the lady does not have RISE on step 1 of the Feather Step.

Anon1. There is NFR for the lady on step 1 of the Foxtrot. The rise is through the knees only. If you can find Leg and Footrise on this site. Find the writting by Jonathan on this very subject, get a print out, only four paragraphs and memorize. You will know more than the average dancer and some of their teachers. Harsh but true.

No need to check Jonathan's message. I'm a qualified teacher of dancing. I'm anazed sometimes Don that you seem to get away with so many incorrect statements. Anyway, keep em comin'

Anon1.I will be honest on this one. I have danced for a number of years. I would not have been able to explain NFR as well Janathan did. I've had a bit of a search and i can only find a statement that says where body rise is used the whole of the supporting foot is kept flat. Alex Moore page 23. This is nowhere near as good as Jonathans which says it is done through the knees. If this is how you would have explained it, as the saying goes Your a better man than i am Kunga Din. Rudyard Kipling i think.