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Bounce fallaway
Posted by cdroge
1/30/2006  5:09:00 AM
I have a problem getting my partner to slow down when going into the fallaway,she goes past me. This is not a problem in the FSP as we are turning and I can cut her off with my right hip. Part of the problem is that her leg length is three inches longer than mine. Would it help if she turned her head to the right when entering?
Re: Bounce fallaway
Posted by suomynona
1/30/2006  6:15:00 AM
Sounds like she may be falling through her feet rather than being carefull in her progress through them. Also, taller women have to be more carefull to move their body and then their legs, wheras women who are shorter than their partners can often get away with reaching their feet ahead of the bodies since they are less likely to outstep their partner.
Re: Bounce fallaway
Posted by Quickstep
1/30/2006  4:22:00 PM
Suomynona. The same old question rears its head. Does the body move the feet or do the feet move the body. We here learn very quickly, if we are competing, that the feet move the body. This is in a style called New Vogue. In it there are many times that the couple will do a solo turn down the LOD the man turning anti- clock the lady clockwise starting from a position with each facing each the other. There is a swivel to get the feet in the right direction and then the solo turn. Nothing looks worse than the body leading the feet at the beginning. Think of a set square in front of you on the table. The up rightpart stays
upright. The base moves the upright. I think even in a beginners competition the judges, they would soon be looking at somebody else.
Re: Bounce fallaway
Posted by Anonymous
1/30/2006  4:37:00 PM
the reason this argument goes around and around is that you alway ignore the key detail, and keep posting the false dispute instead.

The body moves the legs AND the legs move the body.

What the legs don't do is move themselves without the body, but this is mostly what we see beginners do.




Re: Bounce fallaway
Posted by phil.samways
1/31/2006  3:49:00 AM
Anonymous, you're absolutely right.
In reply to the original post by cdroge, be happy your partner can move so freely. Maybe she doesn't appreciate there is a problem. Remember the first step to solving a problem is to realise there is a problem
Re: Bounce fallaway
Posted by cdroge
1/31/2006  4:27:00 AM
THanks Fil,but it has been a problem for several years,just like the open Telemark even with straight,straight dance out backwards and brush the left foot to the right foot? I think here it is the lady resting on her heals or the man not getting a good lowering on the first step,but again it is a question of quality of movement and not what is correct.
Re: Bounce fallaway
Posted by Anonymous
1/31/2006  4:51:00 AM
lowering has to happen before the first step

lady needs to use her standing heel to support her weight as she pushes back into the first step of any of these figures. Then she needs to not let her arriving heel lower too quickly - the lowering of her foot is paced by the arrival of your body, if anything she should use her foot to slightly slow you down, since you are both about to begin convert speed partially to body rise anyway (and foot rise for you)
Re: Bounce fallaway
Posted by phil.samways
1/31/2006  6:38:00 AM
Hi again cdroge
You could try dancing slowly without music (but you'd have to count a slow tempo)so that both of you can focus on the technical aspects. This works very well for us. Needs good balance though.

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