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Re: Speed accross the foot.International style
Posted by Judy
3/10/2006  5:43:00 AM
Is foot rise not rise in the book?
Re: Speed accross the foot.International style
Posted by suomynona
3/10/2006  6:37:00 AM
"How much you would apply the brake would depend on how fast you are going which if you are just demonstrating an open telemark is not very fast. If you wan't to stay up on the toes is your option and still needs the aplication of the brake and a little stronger at that?"

Speed and rise are intimitaly coupled in both directions. If you start with rise, a downswing lowering will naturally build speed. If you have speed, the only proper way to dissipate it is into a new rise.

However, from a risen but minimum speed situation (which occurs often when you have traded speed for rise) you can quite easily abandon dancing by simply lowering in place. This may not be a dance action, but it has the advantage of not being a distorted variation of one that could confuse anyone.
Re: Speed accross the foot.International style
Posted by Don
3/10/2006  8:40:00 PM
I think what must come into this, is where does a sway end. We may have sway as in an Open Telemark on two and none on three but the sway has to continue untill the beat of three otherwise it will be too abrupt an ending to the sway I never questioned at that time why the other step was used, everybody just did it.
Re: Speed accross the foot.International style
Posted by suomynona
3/10/2006  10:53:00 PM
"I think what must come into this, is where does a sway end. We may have sway as in an Open Telemark on two and none on three but the sway has to continue untill the beat of three otherwise it will be too abrupt an ending to the sway I never questioned at that time why the other step was used, everybody just did it."

Don, the sway in an open telemark is largely a result of the man leaving his left toe in place where it fell on step one at the same point on the floor throughoughout most of step two. As he goes to take step three and moves the leg, the body will naturally return to an upright position since the unique position that caused it has dissolved.

There is no need to worry about abrupt changes in sway, because sway is not an action into itself, but rather a result of fundamental actions of the step. If the fundamental actions are done right, the sway will automatically be right.

Actually this is true of many things written in the book; they are not instructions at all, but things you would observe when the figures are well dances. You can work backwards from those observations to deduce instructions for dancing, but those have rarely been written down. Instead, the book is usually either ignored or taken as an instruction manual - a shame, because it has a lot to teach when you read the implications between the lines.
Re: Speed accross the foot.International style
Posted by Quickstep
3/10/2006  11:28:00 PM
Suomynona. I suppose this could easily be misunderstood. The extra step was only taken as the class stopped, at the Open Imputus for instance, to go back to the start and do it again, or add the next piece on.Quickstep the same we never finished in an up position. We always did the lowering plus the next step. Starting from there was always from toe lower.
Re: Speed accross the foot.International style
Posted by Rha
2/27/2006  7:47:00 AM
John,

I would'nt agree that the aim is to move the weight quickly from ball to heal. Correctly, yes but quickly, no.

The way to control body speed is to control the standing leg sending the weight away and the receiving leg receiving the weight. The time that the weight is actually over the foot is fractional and just another moment in the complete weight transfer.

Rha
Re: Speed accross the foot.International style
Posted by DJSI LVER
2/27/2006  10:33:00 AM
"One of the best dancers in the tango calling 2 walks and a link and a closed promenade -- used to count stop stop quick stop. stop quick stop stop."

Can some one elaborate a bit on changing the "slow" to "stop". It appears that when doing a slow, the action should be identical to a quick, except that after doing the quick, the whole body weigh would be over either foot and wait there to finish the timing of the slow. By doing this, the tango stlye will show up.
Re: Speed accross the foot.International style
Posted by Onlooker
2/28/2006  1:08:00 AM
DJSILVER.You are right but how many will uderstand. Get them to try a Closed Promenade S Q Q S and bring the last Slow in on one beat and stand still on the second. Once that it proven then apply it to all of the Tango
That is what is meant by stop is to arrive on the first beat and not to ooze onto the step. Even in the Link which is two Quicks, in my opinion we arrive on the first quick much quicker therefor calling the second step a stop.This for those who don't know is the International Style Tango.
Re: Speed accross the foot.International style
Posted by John
2/28/2006  4:57:00 AM
Closed promenade correction. On the last slow hold the first beat and close on the second. Many teachers count the two slow beats as slow&
Re: Speed accross the foot.International style
Posted by Anonymous
2/28/2006  7:00:00 AM
John. I don't think so. It would be out of character with all the other steps.Go to the tapes and look see.

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