Interesting. I always thought it was a pivot on the heel when going backward. Maybe i'm learning something

Phil. Natural Spin Turn .Step four is a Natural Pivot. Half a Turn on the ball of the left foot for the man
Ladies step four. Forward RF and turn on the ball of the RF. with a Pivoting action
As it has been said. Without the book where would we be.
Possibly turning on the heel.

"Phil. Natural Spin Turn .Step four is a Natural Pivot. Half a Turn on the ball of the left foot for the man"

Not really. Yes, it appears to say that, but then look at the lady's footwork in the natural pivot turn and you will see that in fact the spin turn is calling for something less than the fully executed half turn pivot in the natural pivot turn.

The reality is that most pivoting actions are fairly lazy about the rotation, more concerned with sending both centers on as straight a common line of progression as possible, with little to no side-to-side deviation to get past each other. The forwards action is very much forward, forward, the backwards action just sort of happens, some pivot on the ball of the foot but also a lot of the body turning more than the foot.

Only if you are going to do something like a pivot into a lady's heel turn would the kind of completely turned action most nievely think appropriate for a generic pivot actually be appropriate.

Anonymous. What do you mean in it appears to say. One thing I can do is read and copy. You just keep your stupid remarks to yourself.
The question was is a Pivot on the ball, toe or heel.
Explain where you get a Pivot on the ladies Heel Turn.

"Anonymous. What do you mean in it appears to say. One thing I can do is read and copy."

Good, then you will note the difference in footwork between the natural spin turn and the natural pivot turn, and will have thought about what that indicates!

"Explain where you get a Pivot on the ladies Heel Turn."

Not on, but INTO. See for example the running right turn. This is one of the few places where you actually should dance what most people mistakenly imagine a pivot to be. Everywhere else, you want to do somewhat less pivoting of the ball of foot against the floor and more simply driving through.

Anonymous. Is the Running Right Turn the one where the lady has a heel turn were a lot of people let the feet pass.

"Anonymous. Is the Running Right Turn the one where the lady has a heel turn were a lot of people let the feet pass."

Perhaps. It's a natural pivot turn, a followers heel turn, and a running finish.

And it's one of the few places where you would actually want to come close to dancing a full pivoting action, to help put the following heel turn on the spot.

Otherwise, spin turn, continued natural pivots, etc, you want to use less rotation of the foot against the floor, and more simply dancing though, sending both centers on as close to a common straight line of travel as possible.

Anonymous. If we do a Running Right after a Spin Turn. Does the lady have a heel turn on steps five six. If we did this twice in a routine would a judge seeing this twice and the mistake twice look at this as being a fault.

"Anonymous. If we do a Running Right after a Spin Turn. Does the lady have a heel turn on steps five six. If we did this twice in a routine would a judge seeing this twice and the mistake twice look at this as being a fault."

The beginning of a the running right turn is not steps 1 to 4 of the spin turn, it is steps 1 to 4 of the natural pivot turn, which as a different action than a spin turn does. See the difference in the lady's footwork for step 4.

If you do this true and literal pivot, you are positioned to dance into a followers heel turn. Otherwise, even in a series of "pivots" you probably want to dance something that suggests a pivoting action, but really isn't quite a complete one. A lot of the turn ordinarily is body relative to the foot - it isn't all foot pivoting against floor. But when it will be followed by a heel turn, it does come closer to being entirely foot pivoting on the floor, with the body staying more aligned to the foot than ordinary.

Anonymous. Does that mean i can't do a Running Finish after a Spin Turn.