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Re: How Horrendous
Posted by Anonymous
12/30/2006  8:05:00 PM
"it is better to focus on what is right, rather than who is right."

There's enough to worry about in the first that I'm sorry to admit that we have indeed from time to time gotten a bit too distracted by the second.


Re: How Horrendous
Posted by Juice23
12/31/2006  7:16:00 AM
I'm glad someone brought this up. Yes, there's some good information to be found, but the funny thing is that in almost every arguement the two or three people are generally saying the exact same thing, only phrased differently using different words. That's a perfect observation that they are very concerned with having the last word to be the one who is right.
Re: How Horrendous
Posted by Anonymous
12/31/2006  8:18:00 AM
"the funny thing is that in almost every arguement the two or three people are generally saying the exact same thing, only phrased differently using different words"

Actually, no. The disagreements are mostly quite serious in substance.
Re: How Horrendous
Posted by Tangoman
12/31/2006  8:49:00 AM
Well said, Anonymous. You couldn't have proved Juice23's point more perfectly.

(And you'll just drive the point right home if you reply to this!)
Re: How Horrendous
Posted by Anonymous
12/31/2006  9:03:00 AM
"Well said, Anonymous. You couldn't have proved Juice23's point more perfectly."

Not really.

But what is being demonstrated is that the serious issues of dance technique are hidden behind too many complications to be readily visible to everyone.

The arguments are based in absolute, 100%, 180-degree disagreement over key details.
Re: How Horrendous
Posted by Anonymous
12/31/2006  9:15:00 AM
I should add though that a lot of what is choking up the board is the repetition. Which is not really argument at all, but a response to failures of observation.

The whole debate about picture two of the forward walk for example, long ago ceased to be a debate about how it should be done, and became simply an exercise in pointing out what a picture shows. Regardless if one believes that is or isn't how it should be done (a legitimate disagreement), it's pretty hard to deny that the configuration of the body and standing leg shown in the picture is POSSIBLE - yet denying that possibility is exactly what someone keeps doing.
Re: How Horrendous
Posted by Juice23
12/31/2006  11:50:00 AM
When did I say that the issues weren't serious? I just pointed out that it bothers those in the discussion more how something is phrased than what is meant or what is actually being said. Maybe reading things more carefully and not assuming things would be a step in the right direction.
Re: How Horrendous
Posted by Juice23
12/31/2006  11:54:00 AM
Yes, there are some real disagreements, but there are often times when one person says something in relation to the leg, while somebody else gives it in relation to the knee or whatever silly thing like that that causes an arguement. Often, people come to the boards with questions, and the thread is hijacked by silly arguements. Notice I said arguements, not necessarily disagreements.
Re: How Horrendous
Posted by Anonymous
12/31/2006  12:08:00 PM
"Yes, there are some real disagreements, but there are often times when one person says something in relation to the leg, while somebody else gives it in relation to the knee or whatever silly thing like that that causes an arguement."

No - that disagreement is quite real, and not about terminology at all. There's a whole realm of body movement that Don still hasn't realized is possible, despite being shown a picture of it.

"Often, people come to the boards with questions, and the thread is hijacked by silly arguements. Notice I said arguements, not necessarily disagreements."

Arguments usually founded in disagreements. A question is asked, and answered, but someone else finds what they consider a serious flaw in that answer. Part of the problem then is that the board doesn't make it real easy to see more than the most recent post in a long thread.
Re: How Horrendous
Posted by Juice23
12/31/2006  12:53:00 PM
Ever think that maybe you're the one who's being closed minded or could perhaps even be wrong? It takes two to have a "disagreement". And whatever happened to live and let live? I'm going to follow my own advice and leave this thread.

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