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Waltz Natural Turn
Posted by cdroge
2/10/2008  7:36:00 AM
How does the technique book describe the 2&3 step of Waltz NT. IF the completion of the first step is when the LF is along side the RF then the completion of the second step should have the RF along side the LF etc?
Re: Waltz Natural Turn
Posted by CliveHarrison
2/10/2008  10:13:00 AM
1. RF fwd, DW, starting to turn to R
2. LF to side, backing DC, turning 1/4 to R between 1 & 2
3. RF closes to LF, backing LOD, turning 1/8 between 2 & 3
4. LF back, backing LOD continuing turn to R
5. RF to side, pointing DC, turning 3/8 between 4 & 5
6. LF closes to RF, facing DC, body completes turn.

So the feet are only together on 3 & 6.
Re: Waltz Natural Turn
Posted by Serendipidy
2/10/2008  12:00:00 PM
The first three steps of a Natural Turn
in the Waltz . Today is split into six beats. After stepping on 1. with the RF the LF comes to a position under the body on an ( and ) count. Then after compressing the Right Knee the LF is placed to the side on the count of 2. The RF draws to the LF on an (and) count. Continue to rise on 3 and lower at the end of three on an ( and ). At that point for the person going backwards make sure that the LF is already in a position behind the body. To finish with the feet together on the ( and ) count and not to release the LF is wrong. Done that way will have the man pushing the lady onto her step. Also to finish that way will have you chasing the beat. This doesn't apply to the man who's feet will be together after lowering on the ( and ) count.It is recomeded in practice that both the man and the lady count aloud See Richard Gleave or John Wood for all of the above information.
It is essential to understand the correct technique of the rise and fall. Which is Commence to rise at the end of one. Continue to rise on two and three. Lower at the end of three.
Then go to the Foxtrot and see what the differences are in the rise and fall compared to the Waltz. I think that covers it. As John Wood says . It sounds complicated, but it isn't.
Re: Waltz Natural Turn
Posted by anymouse
2/10/2008  4:28:00 PM
"then the completion of the second step should have the RF along side the LF etc?"

No. There is a different definition for the end of a step when the next step will be a closing action. Step two ends when the foot is halfway closed. The latter half of the closing, and the continuation of rise that coincides with that, are part of step three.
Re: Waltz Natural Turn
Posted by cdroge
2/11/2008  5:51:00 AM
Anymouse is this definition of the RF part closing to the LF at the end of Two in the technique book. Thanks.
Re: Waltz Natural Turn
Posted by anymouse
2/11/2008  9:24:00 AM
"Anymouse is this definition of the RF part closing to the LF at the end of Two in the technique book. Thanks."

The unique rule giving the endpoint of closing steps is part of the formal technique, yes.

A hypothetical book which tried to apply the passing end-of-step rule to the closing situation would look quite different - as you yourself pointed out "then the completion of the second step should have the RF along side the LF" which would mean that the there would be no remaining foot movement left to specify as occurring during step 3. This would not be a very practical description - nor, if the time values were as currently given a very sensible way to dance as you'd have a lot of time during step three with very little to do since your feet would already be closed and the majority of the rise (which naturally coincides with the closing) already accomplished.

When you consider that, it becomes apparent that these rules are not simply arbitrary definitions, but a very carefully chosen in order to be able to create a comprehensive and fairly self-consistent system of description. In cases such as this, changing even one definition would force you to rewrite large portions of the book.
Re: Waltz Natural Turn
Posted by Caittlyn
2/11/2008  12:42:00 PM
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