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From Technique Book
Posted by Serendipidy
2/29/2008  5:42:00 PM
I only have Alex Moore's book. Can anybody quote to me from any of the other books, the alignment of the first step of the Whisk in the Waltz, and give me an alignment on where does the second step get placed. For instance LOD, or is it diagonal to the wall against the LOD.
Re: From Technique Book
Posted by CliveHarrison
3/1/2008  3:08:00 AM
From Guy Howard (Technique of Ballroom Dancing, 2007):

Man:
(1) LF fwd, HT, facing DW, start to rise e/o 1;
(2) RF to side and slightly fwd, T, facing DW, continue to rise;
(3) LF crosses behind RF in PP, TH, facing DW, Up on 3, lower e/o 3 (slight body turn to R on 3).

Lady:
(1) RF back, TH, Backing DW, start to rise e/o 1 NFR;
(2) LF diag back, T, Pointing DC, turning 1/4 to R between 1 & 2 (body turns less), continue to rise;
(3) RF crosses behind LF in PP, TH, Facing DC, body completes turn on 3; Up on 3, lower e/o 3.

Sway: St. on 1, Man left (Lady right) on 2 & 3.
Re: From Technique Book
Posted by SocialDancer
3/1/2008  3:16:00 AM
The other books are all the same as Alex Moore.

For a basic whisk there is no turn for the man (except a slight body turn to R on 3 to keep the PP tighter)

Man's alignment is DW throughout. Step 2 is side and slightly forward and one book notes that it is consistent with step 2 of a closed change.

If the whisk is turned 1/8 or 1/4 to L, then man's step 2 is diag fwd facing LOD.

Unfortunately it is very common to see this figure danced, and sometimes taught, incorrectly facing W, with step 2 taken to side against LOD.
Re: From Technique Book
Posted by Serendipidy
3/1/2008  11:25:00 PM
Social Dancer. Excellent answer. It will have sent a few people
into looking at their technique books On arriving on the first step. What mistake will occur if the knee isn't flexed before stepping on two. No need to answer. You would be too high to soon, and there is a likelihood of going over the top. Commence to rise at the end of one. Continue to rise on two and three. lower at the end of three. Page 146
Re: From Technique Book
Posted by anymouse
3/2/2008  5:05:00 PM
"Commence to rise at the end of one. Continue to rise on two and three. lower at the end of three. Page 146"

That is not correct for the whisk. You seem to have posted the rise and fall of some other figure instead.

A whisk is 3: Up. Lower e/o 3, in all reputable technique books (ISTD, Moore, Howard)

This is mostly a terminology issue - because the whisk has a passing step three the boundaries between the steps are in a different place than they would be for a normal closing waltz figure. In a whisk step two won't end until the feet pass, vs. in normal waltz closing figures step 2 ends when the feet are half closed. That extra bit of rise that's during the final closing of the feet in a normal waltz figure is during step 3, but in a whisk it occurs during step 2 because step 3 will begin only when the foot is closed and begins to pass.
Re: From Technique Book
Posted by Serendipidy
3/3/2008  2:58:00 PM
Anonymous. So the question seems to be on a Whisk is the full rise made on step two with no further rise on step three. Or is there rise on step three as a continuence of the rising on step two. I think we all know that there is lowering at the end of three.
For those interested it might be worth looking at the Whisk in Learn the Dances on this site.

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