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Viennese Waltz Fan's - your input is needed
Posted by viennese
9/15/2003  5:46:00 PM
I'm looking for opinions on learning viennese waltz.... I have an American style dance background wanting to move onto Viennese Waltz. I was wondering if you had to pick between American Viennese and International Viennese - which would you learn ? I assume that learning Viennese as a first dance in international style is a bit ambitious (if not a bit TOO ambitious) - but then why not ? - but if you had the choice which would you do ? How similar/different are they ?

In general, did you learn american and then international style ? Or did you decide to learn international only since you wanted to compete....... What are the reasons you would give to someone for learning the one style over the other ?
re: Viennese Waltz Fan's - your input is needed
Posted by more questions
10/9/2003  6:27:00 PM
I'm interested to know what you meant by "repetitive nature of the dance" ? Is this true just for VW or also true for the other dances ? I think i get the idea that flaws in your technique will be exposed. Do you feel that very few steps can be "boring" (so to say) or do you feel that you can be more creative/expressive ?

Originally posted by eluck:
There are very few steps in the International Viennese Waltz. The good thing about learning International is that the repetitive nature of the dance will expose flaws in your technique that you may not notice practicing American Style VW.

I think that if you are not interested in learning the closed position technique that comes with all standard dances, that you stick to American Style. This will provide you with more variation and steps to use socially.

Happy Dancing!
re: Viennese Waltz Fan's - your input is needed
Posted by Sarcastic Smoothie
10/9/2003  6:39:00 PM
Originally posted by more questions:
I'm interested to know what you meant by "repetitive nature of the dance" ?


You do the same two measure reverse turn combination over and over again down the long wall, do a change step, do the two measure natural turn combination over and over around the short end, do a change and go back to reverses, and so on. That's what makes it highly repetitive - you're either doing one thing, or the other, or in the act of switching between them.

And that pretty much describes international viennese all the way into open. Starting in silver you are allowed to cut into the center, do fleckerels around each other on a spot, and then go back out (and from gold you are allowed to do them rotating both ways) but it's hard enough to get these right that even in high level competitions some couples will decide it's safer just to try to do perfect natural and reverse turns around the perimiter of the floor.
re: Viennese Waltz Fan's - your input is needed
Posted by ninedancer
9/17/2003  2:44:00 PM
I compete as an amateur in championship American style, and I'm telling you that you should learn standard Viennese.

In my opinion, you'll be studying the solid technique around the basic figures, instead of being rushed into open/fancy steps.

I think Viennese only looks good when you travel softly and have a great topline, and studying the standard version should allow you to concentrate more on these aspects.

Good luck!!!

"Do or do not, there is no try," Yoda, Episode V
re: Viennese Waltz Fan's - your input is needed
Posted by Blair
9/17/2003  2:46:00 PM
Since IS-VW has such a resticted syllabus, you will have to learn the IS figures as the most basic steps in AS-VW. so it probalbly doesn't matter which style you start with as long as you are taught the proper technique.

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