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Re: Should an IS pro know the syallbus?
Posted by interested
3/10/2009  10:01:00 AM
To better understand why, compare to the situation of the quick open reverse where it is the lady on the inside of the turn. The given rise and fall will be the same except that lady does have NFR and her footwork is TH, unlike the man's foot rise an


I think I understand why the THT is used for the man on 4 the reverse turn. i am not so clear why the situation should be any different for 1 of the qor for the lady. wonder if you coud iluminate. thanks.
Re: Should an IS pro know the syallbus?
Posted by anymouse
3/10/2009  10:26:00 AM
"I think I understand why the THT is used for the man on 4 the reverse turn. i am not so clear why the situation should be any different for 1 of the qor for the lady. wonder if you coud iluminate. thanks."

The man has foot rise because his more dominant role in the partnership means he is not as simply under the swing as the lady would be if she were on the inside - he starts out almost as if he will be under, but as the feather finish blends towards something commencing more of a forward feather, he needs to be somewhat on top, and that requires the slight spring or rise in his foot. The lady staying underneath would not have the same kind of spring in her comparable action.

You can see another example of the role-difference in footwork comparing the three step and feather to the reverse wave and back feather - the lady going backwards has TH TH TH, but the man does his comparable backwards actions as TH T TH.
Re: Should an IS pro know the syallbus?
Posted by interested
3/10/2009  12:23:00 PM
The man has foot rise because his more dominant role in the partnership means he is not as simply UNDER THE SWING as the lady would be if she were on the inside - he starts out almost as if he will be UNDER, but as the feather finish blends towards.........ON TOP


im not sure exactly what you mean by under, under the swing, and on top. could you explain please.

on the other example - another one i have always pondered on - as i understand it,the reason for the lady lowering her heel on backward up steps is to avoid impeding the man's progress. but i never understood why this wasnt an issue when the situation is reversed. is it something to do with lead and follow maybe ?
Re: Should an IS pro know the syallbus?
Posted by anymouse
3/10/2009  1:17:00 PM
"im not sure exactly what you mean by under, under the swing, and on top. could you explain please.

on the other example - another one i have always pondered on - as i understand it,the reason for the lady lowering her heel on backward up steps is to avoid impeding the man's progress. but i never understood why this wasnt an issue when the situation is reversed. is it something to do with lead and follow maybe ?"

It is the under vs. on top aspect again. Look at the difference in body position for the two partners - there's a lot of similarity between what the men and women do, but there are unique differences of role as well.
Re: Should an IS pro know the syallbus?
Posted by interested
3/10/2009  4:57:00 PM
so your'e saying that the different footwork relects the lady's more backward poise ?
Re: Should an IS pro know the syallbus?
Posted by anymouse
3/10/2009  9:30:00 PM
"so your'e saying that the different footwork relects the lady's more backward poise ?"

I'd hesitate to call it "backward" as that easily gives the wrong idea, but yes the lady's footwork is different in large part to be compatible with the element of her poise that you had in mind when you wrote that. Or you might say that both the footwork and the poise are part of her role in the couple, vs. the man's role and his footwork and poise.
Re: Should an IS pro know the syallbus?
Posted by interested
3/11/2009  5:27:00 PM
one more question to come out of this - why isnt the ftwk TH for the lady step 2 of the curved 3 ?
Re: Should an IS pro know the syallbus?
Posted by anymouse
3/11/2009  9:03:00 PM
"one more question to come out of this - why isnt the ftwk TH for the lady step 2 of the curved 3 ?"

Because actual foot rise is used to redirect the energy into a curve.

Most swing-dance figures feature a straight line of movement from the preceding step three, through steps one and two of the new figures. At the top of the rise on step 2 (foxtrot) or step 3 (waltz) we then pick a new direction to lower in.

But we can use the same idea of rise to curve the path of movement before step three. By placing step two slightly wide of the path of our movement and rising on it, we generate a slight imbalance which means gravity will deflecting our travel towards the center of the curve we wish to create. This lets us both execute an elegant brush-along-the curve action as our inside of turn foot passes our outside of turn foot on its way from step 1 to step 3.
Re: Should an IS pro know the syallbus?
Posted by Cyd
3/11/2009  6:47:00 PM
Posture Re-Visited. If you had attended a lecture given by Andrew Sinkinson last Monday you would have had to do a Basic Quickstep with the man's right hand behind his back and the ladies left hand behind the back. The body contact point was right nipple to right nipple. Try to do that leaning backwards, not possible.Back to the drawing board . The contact that used to be is no longer being taught. Below the rib cages the body is completely clear.
Re: Should an IS pro know the syallbus?
Posted by Cyd
3/11/2009  5:59:00 AM
To Whome. There is Foot Rise on step four for the man on a Reverse Turn in the Foxtrot. Their is also a rule to be observed which is on this particular step, and that is, any step to the side comes from a toe to a toe. That!s why it is down in the book as THT. Falure to do this makes it a very awkward step for the lady on her step five.

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