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Compete as amature, but teaching dancing!?
Posted by Hummmm
6/7/2004  5:10:00 PM
Hello

If anybody answer my questions, I am very appliciate about that.

I am competing as amature and teaching dancing free. Even I am teaching dancing, I don't receive any money because I would like to compete as amature. I would like to compete at Blackpool next year if possible. But instructors at dancing studio start comlain that I have to charge if I am teaching dancing there.

Somebody told me that even I make money for teaching dancing, if I spent more money my dancing lessons, still I can compete as amature. Eg. If I can make money $50 per week for teaching dancing, then take private lesson $60, I make no money for dancing, so I can still compete as amature.

Is that true? even British open? If somebody know about that, I am very appliciatge about that. I really would like to be good dancer before I am changing to Pro.
Re: Compete as amature, but teaching dancing!?
Posted by Sarcastic Smoothie
6/7/2004  11:03:00 PM
There's two aspects to this - what's right, and what's legal.

In terms of what's right, I think your idea of teaching for free and waiting until you have accomplished a lot before turning pro is best. Obviously the local studio can make rules about who is allowed to teach there, and you are free to go elsewhere if you don't like them.

As far as 'amateurs' being allowed to teach, it depends on what country you live in/represent. Even for the British Open, the rules are NOT the same for everyone, as that comp simply requires that you be considered an amateur by your own country's IDSF organization.
The US organization - USABDA - won't permit amateurs to teach outside of a special program with some srtrict qualifications and limitations, but apparently the rules in much of Europe are far looser. Also in the US, competitions sanctioned by the NDCA rather than USABDA have their own elgibility rules - people allowed to teach by USABDA are not allowed to compete as amateur, though a tiny number of people who place well at the NDCA's national competition are allowed to teach and still compete against foreign IDSF-elgible dancers and domestic amateurs in a special 'world competitor' category.
Re: Compete as amature, but teaching dancing!?
Posted by Anonymous
6/8/2004  6:40:00 PM
If you're in the U.S. there are specific rules for Amateurs. As a starting point, check out this link:
http://www.usabda.org/dancesport_competitors/rules-policies-bylaws/dancesport_rulebook/index.cfm
Go down to section 4 "Rules for Competitors".

If you charge money for teaching, you are in a very grey area: See section 4.3.2.1. ("An amateur athlete is prohibited from generating a net profit from his or her dance skills above and beyond the amount of allowable expenses...) Section 4.3.1.1 also specifies that "An individual who decides to utilize his or her dance skills as a Professional Dancer...whereby he or she makes an income is ineligible to compete or be registered as an Amateur Athlete..."

I think your best guideline is: If you make money out of your dance skills--whether it is actual cash or barter (for dance floor time for example) then it is possible that you would be considered a professional.

Good luck.

The Frying Dragon

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