Thanks German Dance Teacher. Should the lady on her brush keep her right ball of foot in strong contact with the floor to keep her balance and prevent her from falling out of the spin turn?. what I really had in mind was the early rise on the second step of the weave from from a whisk or promenade, do we achieve this by moving more quickly from the first step? Dave

GermanDanceTeacher - please post regularly in these discussions as your explanations are very clear.
Dave - why didn't you ask the question you really meant to ask? In answer to the brush step - no i don't think the lady keeps her right foot in strong contact - she brings it back against her left foot momentarily, but as far as i know, takes no weight on it at all.
Is there early rise on the second step of a weave? I don't know but going into a weave from promenade position (as a man) has been a little bit of a headache for me. The lady has to turn in front of me between 1 and 2, so a long step 1 is not possible. Or is it? (hope germandanceteacher answers)

Phil. I am interested in knowing where else in the waltz we use an early rise on the second step beside the weave. I was also interested to see how many people (such as Don} where aware of this. It was not a trick question.

Dave. A Chasse the the right. I think I was always taught to get up on 2. and maintain for 3.

"Dave. A Chasse the the right. I think I was always taught to get up on 2. and maintain for 3"

No. A chasse features a sort of toned down normal waltz rise at the start, but softened in the vicinity of the syncopation. Early rise is not a term that applies at all.

Dave.Another would be a Double Reverse Spin.

There is nothing that looks worse than a lady on step six with a limp foot and ankle. If you haven't yet worked it out that if a person goes to a side together or pass it is always from two toes. In this part of the Spin Turn the lady is going from a toe ( which at first is a heel lead ) to a toe then another toe and lower. Good contact with the floor, most certainly.
The Weave from a down position rise at the end of one up for two continue to rise on three and lower at the end of three. Continue the same technique on 4 .5. 6. Haven't you guys realised yet that the rise and fall here is as all basic Waltz even the Change Step. New Years resolution. Buy a technique book and read it thorougly. Just one more word. The Reverse Weave was a Foxtrot and not a Waltz variation originally. So it does move. Don't forget the CBMP on 4. There is a bit of NFR in there also. Keep dancing and also reading.

Onlooker. You are wrong about the rise in the weave from promenade diagonal to center. We are up on two and five we do not continue to rise on three and six. The whole point of my question was how do we produce the energy from say a Whisk to get that {early or quick} rise.

There is going to be less continuation of the rise between 2-3 on a figure where the feet pass than on a normal waltz figure where they close. This is because "waltz rise" is the basic cause of foot closure - if you aren't going to close them, you aim lower and keep moving, for a softer crest.

Dave. I did a direct quote from the book Alex Moore page 160. Here it is. The Weave from Promenade Psition. Rise and Fall. Commence to rise at the end of 1. Continue to rise on 2.Up on 3.Lower at the end of 3. Commence to rise at the end of 4( NFR). Continue to rise on 5. Up on 6. Lower at the end of 6. Contrary Body Movement. CBM on 2 and 5. 1st and 4th steps are in CBMP.The only difference between this and the normal technique in Waltz is because it is being used in what was a Foxtrot where we have no verticle lowering, so we are not supposed to get too high because we are travelling. I was always taught to say, down up up, down up up. Then that was changed to float on the ups. Once again from the book. It is attactive to hurry the timing a little on steps 1 and 2 so that a Hover effect can be made before placing the 3rd step in position. The continuance of the rise on steps 2 and 5 enhances the rhythmic feeling of this figure.End of Quote. As I said before , get a technique book. If you wanted to know the difference between a Heel Pull and a Heel Turn there it is in two sentences. One being . The feet may be kept apart instead of closed and the weight is more forward than in a Heel Turn. As I said before. It's all in the book.