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Re: The Golf Swing
Posted by cdroge
2/2/2006  7:32:00 AM
The golfer has to progress his body from one foot to the other ,he also has cbm and a release of power from the body. The leg can swing like the club shaft,but dancing shoes are a lot lighter than walking shoes so it may not be easy to feel the weight of the feet. It would not work in quickstep but it might work on some basic steps in foxtrot.
Re: The Golf Swing
Posted by suomynona
2/2/2006  7:43:00 AM
But the golfer is not really trying to go anywhere - he has to do his swing in such a way that he stops on the arriving foot and doesn't continue past it into another step.

In dancing we are trying to go somewhere - we want to not only transfer to the other foot, but to keep going to a third step, so we primarily swing our body, not our feet.
Re: The Golf Swing
Posted by ann
2/2/2006  7:59:00 AM
what about posture? I have a friend who always says the poistur in playong golf and dancing smooth is the some that the top line and the shoulders work the some??? but it looks like the shoulders are forward more in golf??
Re: The Golf Swing
Posted by cdroge
2/2/2006  8:14:00 AM
Anne . There is a rotation and swing of the shoulders and body as well as the club. Annon you are completly wrong to say we do notfeel the feet swinging, I just took my shoes off and dance a basic foxtrot to prove the point. There may not be enougth time in quickstep or when dancing syncopations but, feeling the feet move helps to ensure that we allow the body to move the legs correctly contrary to what you may think.
Re: The Golf Swing
Posted by Anonymous
2/2/2006  8:30:00 AM
"Annon you are completly wrong to say we do notfeel the feet swinging, I just took my shoes off and dance a basic foxtrot to prove the point. There may not be enougth time in quickstep or when dancing syncopations but, feeling the feet move helps to ensure that we allow the body to move the legs correctly contrary to what you may think.""

I'm not saying that you don't feel the feet swinging, but suggesting that if you do feel it your swing is wrong - too concentrated in your feet.

A golf swing should be concentrated in the club head, but a dance swing should not be concentrated in the foot - it should be concentrated in the low center instead.
Re: The Golf Swing
Posted by cdroge
2/2/2006  9:01:00 AM
Suomy,aggred we swing our body,but when walking we are going somewhere . I can deffinatly feel the weight of the feet swing into place. The legs that have been swung from the hip by the body also swing the foot into place. If it did not we would with the help of gravity fall flat on our face. As you said earlier,the body leads the legs but the foot swinging from the knee has to get there first to catch the body,the leg does not straighten untill the last moment,after the knee has done it's job.
Re: The Golf Swing
Posted by Puzzled
2/2/2006  9:11:00 AM
How do you feel the weight of the foot when it is in cotact with the floor? Also if the foot was in an aerial postion wouldn't I feel the weight of the leg?
Re: The Golf Swing
Posted by suomynona
2/2/2006  9:12:00 AM
The difference is that in golf you want to take all of the energy stored in the body windup and put as much of it as possible into the club head, with the hope that it will transfer to the ball. You don't want the energy to stay in your body, because you want your body to step before you overbalance past the arriving foot.

In dancing, we have a different situation. We are not trying to launch our shoes at the judges' foreheads. We do not way to send the body's energy into the foot and make it feel 'heavy' with the swing, we want to keep the body's energy in the body, because in dancing the body keeps moving across a series of steps, but the feet start and stop on each step. And the body can't trade much energy back and forth with the feet, because if you watch the motion of the body is perfectly smooth without any abrupt changes when the feet start or stop moving.
Re: The Golf Swing
Posted by suomynona
2/2/2006  9:14:00 AM
in golf you want your body to STOP before you overbalance past the arriving foot, sorry
Re: The Golf Swing
Posted by cdroge
2/2/2006  10:25:00 AM
Suomy. As a judge you may not wan't some one to through their shoe at you but there are many competitors who would like to Regardless I get the message. A lightness and softness of movement and not a clunky ,clumsy,heavy,slowly movement of dancing in chains. Reminds me of Mr P.

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