I see two toes together a step out and a lowering, are you trying to tell me that you see the right heel down on the feet together part before the step out to a toe heel. If you did see the foot lowering before the feet are closed you are talking through your hat again. There would be no toe heel. Are you sure you are not getting your Latin muddled up with your Standard. It does happen when you get a Latin person who tries to teach modern unless they have been trained in both.

"I see two toes together a step out and a lowering, are you trying to tell me that you see the right heel down on the feet together part before the step out to a toe heel. If you did see the foot lowering before the feet are closed you are talking through your hat again."

You really can't read, can you.

Look again for exactly what I suggested, as it quite obviously occurs TWICE in that video:

"Look at Jonathan's two forwards steps at the end of the chasse and the lock, where he lowers through his left foot in preperation to step outside partner.

Notice how the foot goes flat while his feet are still apart."

So look again at the LEFT FOOT step at the end of the chasse, and again at the end of the lock. The LEFT HEEL lowers to the ground before the right foot closes to it!

And then look at his FEATHER STEP video, in which you will see on the third step the RIGHT HEEL lowering to the ground before the left foot closes to it.

The book talks about rise and fall, yes, but IT DOES NOT TALK ABOUT RISE AND FALL IN THE PASSAGES WHERE IT SAYS WHEN THE HEEL SHOULD LOWER. FOR THE SIMPLE REASON THAT THE PASSAGE WHERE IT SAYS THAT IS DESCRIBING A WALK WITH NO RISE AND NO FALL.

So much for your pet theory.

The late Harry Smith-Hampshire asked
Where should the moving foot be on the third step of the Feather as the heel of the RF lowers to the floor.
Where is yours. Be carefull that you are not stuck with your weight behind the RF. Because you have said the weight has to be forward. So the answer is. Any suggestions.

"Where should the moving foot be on the third step of the Feather as the heel of the RF lowers to the floor.
Where is yours."

About where Jonathan's is in his video.

BTW, pimpernel, you sound an awful lot like "Quickstep", are you by any chance related?

You've side stepped that one haven' t you. Harry Smith - Hampshire never gave the answer. But i was asking you mainly because you would then have to change your body forward of the foot idea. You can' t have your body in front of the foot if you are going to lower as you suggest.You appear to be destroying your own argument here.
If i lower my front foot whilst it is appart then my weight is over my rear foot. You cant have it both ways. Are you slowly beginning to see the light. If i were you i would get a bit higher on my toes in the Quickstep as high as you can go. Then you will change your mind about the lowering.

"But i was asking you mainly because you would then have to change your body forward of the foot idea. You can' t have your body in front of the foot if you are going to lower as you suggest."

My deearst Quickstep (or should I call you Don?),

The situation we are talking about is the second half of a step. If you'd been paying any attention, you'd know that I had been arguing that the body needed to go ahead of the feet at the beginning of the step, not at the end!

"If i lower my front foot whilst it is appart then my weight is over my rear foot. You cant have it both ways."

Look at Jonathan's feet as he lowers on step three of his feather and come back and tell us if you honestly believe that his weight is over or on his rear foot?
Obvsiously not - you can easily tell that it is entirely on the forward foot.

Anonymous. Now come on. You' ve started to change your story when you said that the body goes ahead at the beginning not at the end of the step. You' ve been saying for ages that the body goes ahead of the feet all the time and that you fall onto the next step, the lady also.. Now your coming around to sense and sensibility.

"Anonymous. Now come on. You' ve started to change your story when you said that the body goes ahead at the beginning not at the end of the step. You' ve been saying for ages that the body goes ahead of the feet all the time and that you fall onto the next step, the lady also.. Now your coming around to sense and sensibility."

You are mistaken.

Your extremely poor reading comprhension frequently causes you to falsely accuse your opponents of changing their arguments, when all that has really happened is that you yourself have suddenly chosen to change what part of their argument you pay attention to, and what part you IGNORE!!!!!

You have avoided the issue. I will ask again phrases differently and more direct. If i lower my front heel to the floor whilst going forward while my legs are apart how on earth can my weight be in front of the front foot.

"You have avoided the issue. I will ask again phrases differently and more direct. If i lower my front heel to the floor whilst going forward while my legs are apart how on earth can my weight be in front of the front foot."

Why you insist on asking the same question over and over, when you could just click over to Jonathan's feather video AND SEE EXACTLY HOW THIS ACTION IS ACCOMPLISHED?

Why don't you tell me:

1) Where is his left foot when his right heel lowers on step 3?

2) On which foot is his weight at the time when his right foot touches the floor?

You dodge these simple questions, because you are unwilling to admit that the video shows PRECISELY WHAT I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET THROUGH YOUR THICK HEAD!