"And you would be suprised how many men put weight onto their LF in the Toe Pivot.'

Surprised? I'd be absolutely amazed because it's impossible for the man to do that spin on the left foot. The lead doesn't close his feet at the end of step two; he draws his LF to his RF as he completes the spin.



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jofjonesboro. That is not what was said. And you can't draw your LF to your RF at the completion of the Spin. Your foot would have been in the ladies way.
There is a perfect Double Reverse Spin on youtube if you Google Marcus Hilton Basic Waltz you will see that on bar 15, second beat, both have their feet together, and his feet stay together throughout the movement . He on beat two is facing against the LOD as she is facing the LOD. You will see that what I wrote was and is correct. And you know absolutely nothing about a Spin Turn.

Here we go again for, what, the ten- thousandth time.

The man's left foot will not be in the lady's way because he is rotating away from her. Your comments make me wonder if you've actually been on a dance floor or have just read a lot of books and watched a bunch of videos.

Once again, you point to a video and claim that it shows something which it doesn't. Marcus' feet are NOT together at the end of step two (nor are Karen's for that matter but the obvious has never bothered you, has it).

You are without question the most consistently and unbelievably arrogant and dishonest clown I've seen on any message board. Look at your first post in this thread. No one said anything about having trouble with a Double Reverse Spin but you couldn't find any other hook with which to interject yourself into this exchange so you made one up.

If I ever reach the point in my life at which I find myself grubbing for attention by posting disingenuous provocations on a message board then I hope my family will be kind enough to have me euthanised.

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jofijonesboro. You are not looking at the correct alignment . The camera is behind and paralell with the side wall which is up and down the floor boards.The dancers are on the diagonal. From your veiw they are cutting across your line of sight. I can't think of any other way of putting it. They are moving to your left. As the feet come together they are pointing to your right on the diagonal. Wake up. How long have you been doing it without the correct technique. Anybody with any sense would see from the floor boards that he is across the floor after the Spin Turn and the last three of the Reverse and is heading at that point towards the direction of that large piller at the side of the floor.That should help you if your alignments are not too clear.
I'm adding a bit more to this. I would imagine that your alignment for the lady on any heel turn is also not correct. She as the feet come together is still facing on the same line that she took on the first step. There is a paralell between it and the mans steps in the Double Reverse.

"jofijonesboro. You are not looking at the correct alignment ."

This is absurd. jofjonesboro did not say a word about alignment, only you yourself Polished has brought it up.

What jofjonesboro said was that the man's feet were not closed at the end of the second step. You had better think very carefully and consult the definitions of what the end of a step is before arguing with that one.

Anonymous. You have not looked at the demonstration on youtube which I don't think you have access to. If you did and were able to move a fraction at a time you would see that you would get the wrong idea of where he is on the first part of the Double Reverse if you thought the alignment was other than facing diag to centre with the LOD at the start. I can assure you that Marcus is backing diag to centre as his feet come together on the Double Reverse Spin.Which is very much like the second step on a ladies Heel Turn where they do not turn untill after the feet come together. Does that explain it.

"if you thought the alignment was other than..."

Polished, who do you think you are arguing about alignments with?

Nobody but yourself has commented on them.

If there have been wrong statements made, then you must have made them yourself, since you were the only person who made any.

I hope you enjoy your argument with yourself.

jofjonesboro. You said that neither Marcus or his partners feet are together at the end of step two. Her feet are side by side about two inches apart. His feet are together on are on the toes. You are completly wrong when you said the man draws his left foot to the right as he completes the Spin. As I said, trying to figure out how you are so wrong. Is because you are not aware of the alignment they are on at the beginning of the Double Reverse which is facing diag to centre with the LOD. You are aware that the man has two steps and a Toe Pivot. The lady has four steps. Let your partner decide which is correct which I am sure by this time you have you have tried the correct aligments.

"You are completely wrong when you said the man draws his left foot to the right as he completes the Spin. "

Oh dear! Then so are the three main technique manuals.

SocialDancer. You are aware that you are dancing with a partner aren't you. In Alex Moore's book the alignment used is down the LOD. Let the lady do her heel turn as it is in the book which is at the completion of the Heel Turn she finishes facing the LOD Weight on LF.
You fit your steps into the ladies who has more to do than the man. I take it you have looked at the video clip. And I hope you would try before making any further comments. If you do and teach that way you could finish with a reputation of .If you want to learn a DRS go to SocialDancer. At the moment I doubt if you have anybody who is balanced and is not taking those extra little moves shuffles on the Toe Pivot. A sure test is can you do the DRS ultra slow and let the lady turn you as she does her steps , and be perfectly balance before lowering.