Dear Don, last night in the studio,
I was advised to fold up my inguinal line of standing side deeply for progressive movement . The coach ( not mine ) showed me how to do that , but I noted she sat down with heavy hip then " Up" ( not gradually rising throughout the steps in natural turn 1-3 in waltz ) with markedly receiving foot rejection. She did not use the pendulum action to swing her moving foot into the position but push from her standing foot including hip.( broken hip line occurred . )

I prefer to transfer my body weight with the power of standing foot and knee ( rotation and press the floor ) together with the pulling power from swinging action of moving leg.

In the teaching video clip, Karen mentioned about the big X across her fronts and upper lateral thighs to avoid the big fold.
( shoulder ,ribcage , hip, ball in one line vertically )

I said : "I need to consult other experts to see if this is a new development as you said. Yes, I noted some dancers practiced such kinds of exercise . But I did not see them use it in their dancing .
Generally. the technique developed is better . but you knew, it is not easy to learn exactly. Correct information is vital.

In my opinion , body moves in constant speed generally, it arrived its midway extremely close the maximum stride , sitting up hip position should be cared. I flex my moving ankle hard with soft knee ( maybe not soft enough in my current level )to catch my body weing on the receiving ball, slow down the heel lower. keeping my wight toward partner, I just let them naturally happen. Whether I was wrong or right , I will let you know. Thanks ."
My question is how to let our pelvis in its middle level with minimum use of muscle tone ?
I tested it by standing with heels closed, toes turn out as much as I could, without extra control I squated down with heels touching floor. Is that the muscle tone I need ?
Thank you.
ylchen

"She did not use the pendulum action to swing her moving foot into the position but push from her standing foot including hip.( broken hip line occurred . )

I prefer to transfer my body weight with the power of standing foot and knee ( rotation and press the floor ) together with the pulling power from swinging action of moving leg."

The important pendulum action is a motion of the body. The leg may swing in a somewhat similar path from its suspension at the hip, but that's not really part of the pendulum motion, it's just something that also happens.

You do not ever want to be pulled by the weight of your moving foot, as that would mean that your leg swing had preceded your body swing, which is backwards. Body swing starts before leg swing, thjen leg swing overtakes the body swing just an instant befor the body arrives, but not early enough or far enough that the foot can in any way be said to pull the body.

It seems like this other teacher may have some good points. Try to really study what they are doing in addition to their words.

Thank you so much to correct me.
You detailed what the pendulum action is and how to do it .
With one side swing up, the effect is better.
I talked to other coach who takes regular lesson with some Italian competitors last night. She suggested me to press my abdomen toward my spine as much as more and focus to centre drive. We repeated" walk", "five step" for what she meant. She also taught me how to use the back muscle ( both sides )to increase the side way speed. It was instructive also.
Thanks all of you.
ylchen

Yichen. I think what also needs to be looked at is. For the lady 123 Natural Turn Waltz. The leg stays under the hip in relation to the body on step two. On step two the body will be on an incline. But if you were to stand up at this point your right leg will under your own hip line. Swing and Sway is also a part of this. I don't understand the broken hip line unless the teacher is crunching there side which is wrong.
Best wishes.

Not sure if this is what was meant, but any step with full CBM, as well as any step into CBMP, will show a marked crease where the pelvis and moving leg (forwards) or standing leg (backwards) fold together.

Some people leave this creased hip line out of the CBM actions, but that causes numerous hold and coordination problems since the hip and thigh that should be back are then left projecting against the partner.

Try to really study what they are doing + their words.
Yes, I should calm myself down first ,even it looked sitting down. marked bouncing on 1. not smooth from 1 to 2. then realy study what it was.
I learnt from you not only dancing. Great thanks.
Another question about " slow". In slow foxtrot (and tango), someone said the first step arrives at 2. I asked him what you did before 2 ? It looked like q. He answered: "we were taught on this way." Is it a trend ?
ylchen

Yichen. This actually is beauty to explain. Stick to Tango. A closed Promenade, S Q Q S. Four Steps = six beats. The Tango is meant to be sharp. Go to the last slow, and arrive on the first beat, Then stand still for the remaining beat. If you agree with this then apply this to all your slow beats in the Tango. There are probably exceptions to this in the more advanced figures, but not for an intermediate dancer.
Foxtrot . One step for man RF forward heal lead = two beats. Heel arrives on the first beat Toe lowers and the knee bends. plus the moving foot comes into a neutral position on the second beat but not to a stopped position. For me it makes sense that a first big step arriving on the beat of one gives me a whole beat to do the rest. This is of course debatable and the best thing to do is study the videos for yourself.
As a lady supperimpose this on the mans step and what have you got. You have the ladies heel touching the floor as the man's toe touches the floor. That's called being together, A bit beyond most of us at this stage but it is a good starting point. And as I said above, go look. Best of luck there.

Dear Don,
Very carefully to read your reply, I understood and agreed with you :
Generally, slow should be fully occupied by speedy long step or slower speed step . such as walk, closed promenade in Tango. Variation accepted for advanced dancers,dance styles, emotion of music,or figure or combination of figures. ( S! S! S! Karen, rolling right turn in quickstep. staccato action ) S-S ( 4 beats ) ( Karen , outside swivel in Tango, with soft feeling ).
Lady back feather S q q . I will dance as that right heel arrive at first beat of S, left toe ( leading ) swing to position, w/w , right foot and left foot occupy 2 full beats , then body weight transfered on first q ( thirt beat )...
Leg action appear leisurely because of slow in slow foxtrot .
I prefer to have steps simultanuously with the melody, let them flow with the song. ( of course when I danced on myself.
Man's ball-toes <---> lady's heel ( 100% body weight on stnading foot ) is exactly a good point . Thanks.
ylchen

"Foxtrot . One step for man RF forward heal lead = two beats. Heel arrives on the first beat Toe lowers and the knee bends. plus the moving foot comes into a neutral position on the second beat but not to a stopped position."

In a word, NO!

A foxtrot slow lands just before, or right on it's second beat. Landing it on the first beat is far to early and would seriously misshape the trend of motion.

This is equally true for SSQQ foxtrot as SQQ foxtrot.

Anonymous. You have just rewritten the technique book by giving the slow in the International style Foxtrot as having one beat, or is it one and a bit. Split the two beats into four halfs. The heal arrives on the first 1/2 beat, the toe lowers on the second 1/2 beat. We now have to bend the front knee towards our partner as our weight arrives .There's another 1/2 beat gone The rear leg which is moving has a 1/2 beat to pass through a nuetral position and land dead on the first quick. Of course there is nothing to stop anybody doing a prep. step on one beat, on beat one. then a quick on beat two (this is the first of the Feather )followed by the normal two quicks. We do it all the time after a Change of Direction. You wrote landing on the first beat to early would seriously mishape the motion. Not if you are going to bend that right knee. That right knee has got to bend after at first being straight.