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learning to follow
Posted by 5lisamarie
8/6/2007  8:28:00 PM
I have been taking private lessons with my instructor since the last week in May..........He is an excellent teacher.........but I seem to have a difficult time learning to follow a lead. This happens with every male I dance with, but it bothers me most when I am dancing with my instructor and I am not following well. I seem to get into a hurry. It's easier for me to dance and follow a lead with a choreographed dance, but to dance (say a Waltz or Rhumba, for example) that is not choreographed, I seem to stumble, and do not know what step he is trying to get me to execute. It seems to me that by this time I should be better than this. I have a dance background, but not in partner dance. Can anyone offer any insight or advice that may help????
Re: learning to follow
Posted by nigelgwee
8/6/2007  10:07:00 PM
Learn to "listen" (in the tactile, not aural, sense). Welcome to the long and wondrous journey of partner dancing!
Re: learning to follow
Posted by terence2
8/7/2007  1:08:00 AM
6 months ?--you seem to have the usual impatience of a beginner.

Remember-- dancing is a marathon-- not a sprint .
The subleties of partnership ,cannot be gained in such a short period of time ( as a rule ).

you will look back on this episode in 12 months, and wonder what happened to that " other " dancer? ( you )
Re: learning to follow
Posted by anymouse
8/7/2007  6:57:00 AM
"6 months ?--you seem to have the usual impatience of a beginner.

Remember-- dancing is a marathon-- not a sprint .
The subleties of partnership ,cannot be gained in such a short period of time ( as a rule )."

Yes and no. I can think of many ladies whose competition training did not involve fixed routines, who from even the first few weeks have been able to follow from the best of their movement ability. They may still move like beginners, but they can feel what the leader wants, and will do the best execution of that which their feet are currently capable of carrying.

To improve your following:

- Work on learning proper basic actions to the point where they are unthinking reflexes. Not whole figures, just actions, such as how to take a step forward or backwards with CBM, how to take a step in a pointing alignment, etc.

- Do most of your practice without a routine. Try to feel which of the basic actions practiced above is being suggested at each point. Don't think about figures, try to feel the lead as a suggestion that prompts each of the individual actions that make up the figures.
Re: learning to follow
Posted by brunswick
8/9/2007  9:27:00 AM
5lisamarie, I think the suggested approach from "anymouse" is the most valuable advice from my own experience. I'll continue to improve my following by doing just that.
Re: learning to follow
Posted by 5lisamarie
8/9/2007  4:14:00 PM
I think that every reply to my question had been immensely helpful.........I printed all of them and took the to my instructor.......he read with an open mind and we are working from there. I am very fortunate to have an instructor with no big ego and an absolute willingness to make each student's dance experience a positive one. I will be implementing everyone's advice into my learning. Thank you all.
Re: learning to follow
Posted by singndance
8/7/2007  5:20:00 PM
Hi LisaMarie,

Remember you have only been doing this for a short time, and it will get easier in time. I think it is good not to get too dependent on a choreographed routine. My instructor doesn't believe in teaching set routines, although in the beginning I begged him otherwise, so I had to learn to follow. I kept wanting to anticipate the steps. He always tells me that if I anticipate and make a choice without following his lead, nine times out of ten I will make the wrong choice and get myself into trouble. So I had to learn to be patient and follow. It takes waiting that extra split second to read his lead, and not being so quick to guess what he's going to do.

Maybe you could ask your instructor to slowly go over the step, giving you a "clue" to help you understand his lead. I'll ask my instructor "how do I know you are going to do such and such a step" and he'll tell me things like "I'll start with a cross body lead" or "I'll turn your hand" or "it starts with an underarm turn, or "I'll position you like so......" And then we'll do it slowly a few times, with him pointing out to me the signals he wants me to be aware of. This helped me become more aware of his clues and feel more comfortable. And he would spend time explaining why he was doing what he was doing. It was awkward at first and I felt very stupid, but I've never danced before and realized that if I was going have fun ballroom dancing I had to get over it. It comes much easier now, and I will dance with other men at the studio parties to practice how to follow.

By the way how did your first competition go? I hope you had a lot of fun!

Re: learning to follow
Posted by 5lisamarie
8/7/2007  8:48:00 PM
Singndance........

All the messages in response to mine are insightful.......especially yours.......great, great advice...I think you described me to a tee in describing your early struggles with following. Especially learning to wait that extra second to see where he is going. I am going to print your response and show it to my teacher. He is great about teaching to my way of learning. Sometimes I think I'm the only one who has felt stupid......I'm glad to know that I'm not. I love dancing and I'm determined to conquer my following issues. I'm impatient......and I try to be in control,(perhaps my years of being a paramedic and in charge of a scene!) so these are things I will really work on. I will also ask him, as you suggest to show me the body cues that preceed each step, so that I will be better able to "read" his lead.
Thank You for asking about the competition! I had so much fun....it was like nothing I could have imagined...and over too soon. I came in third place three times (foxtrot, waltz and tango)....but there were only five in my category. I was still happy with that. I got a video of my dances(hard to watch!) to learn what I need to work on. Overall, a great experience and one I will readily do again. Thank you again for advice that absolutely addressed my concern.
Re: learning to follow
Posted by slowfox
8/8/2007  11:34:00 AM
One more word of encouragement...I know how frustrating it is in the beginning when you are ambitious, but it's not necessarily the worst thing that you are struggling with your following! It will force you to improve your technique that much faster. Try NOT to anticipate, and don't be afraid to make mistakes...you will learn form them! I agree...the less choreographed the better!
Re: learning to follow
Posted by 5lisamarie
8/8/2007  12:38:00 PM
thank you!

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