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3 fallaways in slowfox
Posted by standardgirl
8/7/2007  5:35:00 AM
Please, can someone tell me definitively if this is an "open" step or can be utilized in a gold routine for competition. My teacher does not know and I would not like to be penalized for dancing out of syllabus.
Re: 3 fallaways in slowfox
Posted by terence2
8/10/2007  3:38:00 AM
Would depend ( to some degree ) on the comp. in which you are dancing .

usually, such variations are reserved for the highest levels .
Re: 3 fallaways in slowfox
Posted by anymouse
8/10/2007  7:38:00 AM
It's not legal under either ISTD or IDTA (I believe the later is what's usually used for pro-am in the states)
Re: 3 fallaways in slowfox
Posted by terence2
8/10/2007  9:06:00 AM
Not necessarily-- there are several well established soc. CDTA-- NADTA etc etc. but they all pretty much follow the same guide lines.
I was an Examiner for the NADTA, and we adhered to the " english soc. " divisional breakdown, in International style .


have judged numerous comps. in many cities at many levels . the more prestigious events, tend to go strictly by the book ( with an invigilator ) smaller events, can pretty much be open season, after bronze level ( even that raises some questions ! )

many yrs ago, it was chaos at some of the smaller non sanctioned events .
Re: 3 fallaways in slowfox
Posted by standardgirl
8/10/2007  6:08:00 PM
Thanks for the explanations. I have confirmed that it is an open step and will just keep it under my belt until I compete out of syllabus in the near future.
Re: 3 fallaways in slowfox
Posted by danz4joy
8/14/2007  1:50:00 PM
It would depend on the school and our syllabus you're using. In my school we teach fallaway position in bronze 3, and it is considered a closed step in competition because it's a school figure in our syllabus. The rules for different comps vary-mostly open category in our comps mean you can use school figures in a higher level and coreography in your amalgamations-closed means you can only use school figures. There should be a rulebook provided by whoever is running the competition that your teacher can reference-as I said before, every comp I have been too has different rules and you have to abide by those specific rules.
Re: 3 fallaways in slowfox
Posted by anymouse
8/14/2007  7:17:00 PM
"It would depend on the school and our syllabus you're using. In my school we teach fallaway position in bronze 3, and it is considered a closed step in competition because it's a school figure in our syllabus."

The "three fallaways" is a far more complicated variation (fallaway, counter fallaway, then back to fallaway) than a generic fallaway. Most syllabi do include some forms of fallaway at some point in their levels, such as a bounce fallaway or fallaway reverse and slip pivot.

But it's going to be a very odd syllabus which includes the three fallaways.
Re: 3 fallaways in slowfox
Posted by phil.samways
8/16/2007  4:50:00 AM
The "3 fallaways" is a lovely figure. Sway is allowed (in a single fallaway there is no sway). The new Video/CD set released by Mirko Gozzoli and partner includes the "3 fallaways" in the foxtrot section
Re: 3 fallaways in slowfox
Posted by anymouse
8/16/2007  8:38:00 PM
"in a single fallaway there is no sway"

In the book version there is none.

Many people dance basic fallaway position with sway against the movement. This can be a nice variation.

Unfortunately, some of them can no longer (or never learned) how to dance a basic fallaway without sway, using support from the feet rather than sway against the movement to keep the couple from falling apart.
Re: 3 fallaways in slowfox
Posted by Serendipidy
8/17/2007  2:47:00 AM
A Fallaway is a good one to look at. The first three steps are nothing more than a Whisk Position. A Whisk has a Sway on the second and third step. See Jonathan Crossley's Fallaway in the Foxtrot. . So is a Fallaway without sway actually going against the correct technique. This is just putting foreward an idea by one who for years kept very upright.

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