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Hesitation Change
Posted by Samantha
5/13/2008  8:13:00 AM
I am just learning this variation in Waltz and would like to know some tips of it.

(i) How can the lady know to dance this variation rather than a normal natural turn?

(ii) Shall the lady turns her head to the right during step 5 and turn back at 6?

Thanks!
Re: Hesitation Change
Posted by Serendipidy
5/13/2008  3:23:00 PM
Samantha. The first three are as normal with the correct rise and fall. The man should lead. There is no rise on steps 4 5 6. Stay down knees flexed not the slightest bit of rise on those last three steps.
A Change of Direction in the Foxtrot has the same technique. Good Luck
Re: Hesitation Change
Posted by anymouse
5/13/2008  9:29:00 PM
"(i) How can the lady know to dance this variation rather than a normal natural turn?"

It feels different. Most obviously the lack of rise as Serendipity mentiond. Get someone to randomly lead this or the back half of a natural turn without telling you which until you can feel the difference.

"(ii) Shall the lady turns her head to the right during step 5 and turn back at 6?"

Yes if the bodies are moved in a way to suggest this, no if they aren't. It's probably easier not to change the head at first, as learning to change the head without letting it move over to the wrong side is a skill in and of itself.
Re: Hesitation Change
Posted by terence2
5/14/2008  12:23:00 AM
When in doubt........ Closed
Re: Hesitation Change
Posted by Serendipidy
5/14/2008  1:51:00 PM
On the Hesitation Change and any step that is simular. Some ladies have the same fault. Instead of finishing where they are supposed to, they wait to be dragged there. They many times take a half hearted step 4 nothing like the heel lead they are supposed to do. Suggestion. Ladies you know where to go then go there. Drive that step four, then a smaller step on step 5. Not the other way around. Make sure at the finish you reach to backing diag to centre. Have Fun
Re: Hesitation Change
Posted by anymouse
5/14/2008  3:18:00 PM
"In the Hesitation Change and any step that is simular. Some ladies have the same fault. Instead of finishing where they are supposed to, they wait to be dragged there. They many times take a half hearted step 4 nothing like the heel lead they are supposed to do. Suggestion. Ladies you know where to go then go there."

How does the lady know that's what she's supposed to do?

Answer: she doesn't, unless that is what her partner leads her to do. He might very well lead something else. Was playing with going into an oversway after the first three of a natural instead of any normal back-half of natural combination - that's the kind of thing that's only possible with a partner who listens to you and does not make unwarranted assumptions.

"Drive that step four, then a smaller step on step 5. Not the other way around. Make sure at the finish you reach to backing diag to centre."

Sure, if that's the way it's lead. But if something different is lead, then it would be dead wrong for her to "make sure" she does something that would be in conflict with what actually was lead.
Re: Hesitation Change
Posted by Serendipidy
5/14/2008  3:50:00 PM
Anonymous. I think we have two things here. We are thinking more towards dancing with a strange person who has no idea what we are going to do. So we use the strong arm stuff. This in a competition would be worse than useless. In a competition the lady would know immediately if there has been a change in plan. Other than that she who is going forward should take control without being over asserted
Re: Hesitation Change
Posted by dheun
5/14/2008  9:36:00 PM
I am not positive what the Hesitation Change looks like in a waltz, though I am guessing I have done it, but just call it something else.
I do it often in Fox Trot, to clear away from traffic and such.
Serendipidy, you are pretty good at spotting videos online that illustrate certain moves. Is there one showing a Hesitation Change in the waltz out there I can take a peek at? I have not noticed it on this site, unless the "closed changes" are what we are talking about here -- but I don't think so.
Re: Hesitation Change
Posted by anymouse
5/15/2008  2:43:00 PM
"Anonymous. I think we have two things here. We are thinking more towards dancing with a strange person who has no idea what we are going to do. So we use the strong arm stuff."

No. No strong on arm, just clear leading and a skilled partner.

Easily demonstrated by leading a skilled dancer (such as a teacher) through your routine which they don't know. If it doesn't work with a light ordinary connection, you aren't doing your part right as the leader. Chances are it will work better than it did with your partner, as the teacher is fundamentally a better and more responsive dancer.

"This in a competition would be worse than useless. In a competition the lady would know immediately if there has been a change in plan."

It doesn't matter if there's a change in plan or not, skilled dancers will not go charging into something just because it was part of the proposed plan, instead they will respond to what is actually happening.

"Other than that she who is going forward should take control without being over asserted"

No, she must not do ANYTHING without paying attention to her partner. Nor can he do anything with considering if it's compatible with the actual position which she has currently gotten into.

Only a robot blindly follows the program.
Re: Hesitation Change
Posted by Serendipidy
5/15/2008  8:43:00 PM
Anonymous/ The person going forward is in control. Take the Wave for one example. The person going backwards moves out of the person going forwards way because two people can not be in the same place at the same time. That is why step four on a Spin Turn the man takes step four diag to wall whilst the ladies step is more down the LOD. Go and look and all will be revealed. Is the man' s step diag to wall and why is it so.

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