Hi All,
There is a basic figure in the Quickstep called the Natural Pivot Turn. This is a composite figure made up of 1-3 of the Natural Turn and a Natural Pivot. A figure of 4 steps. The Natural Spin Turn is also a composite figure of 6 steps consisting of 1-3 Nat. Turn; step 4 a Nat. Pivot; steps 5 and 6 a Nat. Spin. You can see that a Pivot is one step and a Spin is two steps. Whether the figure is wrongly named is debatable. Yet we have the Double Reverse Spin. Is this wrongly named? We don't have to dance it twice! Any comments?

I have the history of ballrom dancing.
The Double Revers Spin was intoduce by a Maxwell Stewert in 1922. They were always danced as a double, hence the name. That was the same year that the cross behind in the Foxtrot was substited by the Feather Step. Spinning, and Pivoting. One is centripetal,inner force, the other centrifugal, outer force. There are some wonderful instruction by John Woods and Anne Lewis on this very subject in their video tape.

"One is centripetal,inner force, the other centrifugal, outer force"
I'm sorry but i don't follow that at all

Hi Quickstep,
Your ballroom history may not have included the passing of Maxwell. It was wrote: On Saturday, 3rd October, 1964, the dancing world lost one of its greatest characters with the death at Bognor Regis of William Joseph Maxwell Stewart, aged 68. He left a widow and two sons, Joseph and Julian. The figure, Double Reverse Spin, was originally called, a Reverse Spin. All spins are open turns and students to the profession became confused because of the gent closing the feet on the Toe Pivot, but because there is no weight change it was still classed as an Open Turn. The name Double was added at a later stage for a reason I can't give just now. Maybe in the future if someone is interested. Would you please answer phil.samways' query. I'm also curious.

The double reverse spin an Open turn? I Don't think so! Don't forget that the lady closes her feet because it's a HEEL TURN

Hi ???,
My reference was made to the gent's and not the lady's foot positions.
"students to the profession became confused because of the gent closing the feet on the Toe Pivot, but because there is no weight change it was still classed as an Open Turn". If you don't agree please keep the thread going. Also, what are your thoughts on the name?

perhaps i can answer my own question on "inner and outer force" having thought about it a bit more.
In a spin, the front of the man's body is facing the inside of the spin (to the centre of the turn) whereas in a heel pivot, the front of the man's body is facing away.
but aren't there different sorts of pivots?
I'm having to bite my tongue here to avoid saying anything about so-called "centrifugal force".

The natural pivot turn is a BALL pivot, not a HEEL pivot. The heel is in contact with the floor, but the weight and turn are over the ball of the foot.

Has anybody tried a Double Reverse Wing.
Which is usually followed by an argument.

Sad, but funny.

Do you do it with a ronde-like action of the leader's free leg?