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Re: Forward Walk in Slow Foxtrot.
Posted by Puzzled
6/14/2006  6:43:00 AM
A few years ago I had a lesson with Stan Page, UK. He danced an Oversway and told me to put this £20 note under his right toe he then told me to pull it away. I could'nt. He then explained that was pressure and not weight.
Re: Forward Walk in Slow Foxtrot.
Posted by Anon
6/14/2006  10:16:00 AM
[The body weight can move, for all practical purposes the entire floor pressure used has to be in the standing foot until the moving foot has found it's position - moving an even partially weighted foot is extremely bad technique.]

What I'm saying is the heel of the supporting foot leaves the floor BEFORE the moving foot arrives in its position to become the new supporting foot. To me, it's ludicrous to suggest that the heel of the supporting foot remains flat to the floor. This will be my last post on this subject. Anyway, thank you Anonymous for making this message very interesting and informative.
Re: Forward Walk in Slow Foxtrot.
Posted by phil.samways
6/15/2006  5:38:00 AM
Hi puzzled
what you were shown was a very good demonstration of the laws of physics. Pressure is force divided by area. And of course the force is from the weight of the person's body, or in this case, the fraction of that weight which is on that toe. This might be quite a small force (if most of the weight is on the other foot) but if the area of contact was very small (as i suspect it was) the pressure would still be great.He sounds like a good teacher.
I'm only aware of this because this pressure gets transmited into my big toe, which complains for hours afterwards!
Re: Forward Walk in Slow Foxtrot.
Posted by Puzzled
6/15/2006  9:59:00 AM
Hi Phil,
Maybe so. I agree with Anon (bless his cotton socks) But if I danced step 1 of the Feather, as gent, would the heel of my RF be in contact with the floor and only released when the weight is taken onto step 2? Or would the heel be released from the floor when the weight leaves the RF to be transfered? The query is 'between moving feet' Readers not understanding the last sentence then read the previous postings.
Re: Forward Walk in Slow Foxtrot.
Posted by Anonymous
6/15/2006  10:33:00 AM
"But if I danced step 1 of the Feather, as gent, would the heel of my RF be in contact with the floor and only released when the weight is taken onto step 2? Or would the heel be released from the floor when the weight leaves the RF to be transfered?"

Neither. The step is an upswing with HT footwork, which means that you shift to the toe (and beging to release the heel) before the end of the step. The step ends when the left foot passes the right on its way to step two. So your heel will be down until shortly before the feet pass, but then will rise.

Contrast step 4 of the feather/feather finish leading into a three step. This does not have upswing, because that will not occur until the next step. So it a heel lead danced H only, not HT. In this case the heel stays down even as the feet pass, and rises sometime shortly before the moving foot finds its place.

The reason we got into this is that someone had argued that the standing heel would release as soon as the moving foot started moving, which is not true. In fact it's just under a half (upswing case) to just under a whole (flat case) step time later.
Re: Forward Walk in Slow Foxtrot.
Posted by ylchen
6/15/2006  8:55:00 PM
I will explain like that the total right lower limb weight on the right big toe.
The remain body weight was on the left foot.
Re: Forward Walk in Slow Foxtrot.
Posted by owendancer
6/16/2006  4:14:00 AM
How long can you drone on about walking? Who cares how many points of balance there are on a forward walk in foxtrot? Sure , you may opine that it is necessary to understand this or that but sheesh! Go dance and dont worry if you will fall over because you are not balanced. Owendancer
Re: Forward Walk in Slow Foxtrot.
Posted by Anonymous
6/16/2006  7:31:00 AM
Owen. If it's all above your head, just say so!
Re: Forward Walk in Slow Foxtrot.
Posted by owendancer
6/17/2006  4:17:00 AM
Anonymous. How nice of you. Even your coach I am sure after several attempts will tell you "Just do it". So I will sub for that person. "Anonymous, just do it". Now can we move on to bigger and better things?. Owendancer
Re: Forward Walk in Slow Foxtrot.
Posted by Anonymous
6/17/2006  8:54:00 AM
"Anonymous. How nice of you. Even your coach I am sure after several attempts will tell you "Just do it". So I will sub for that person. "Anonymous, just do it". Now can we move on to bigger and better things?. Owendancer"

How can you "just do it" when you don't know what it is?

This whole thread has been about the misconceptions about what it is that is to be done. Ignoring the issue won't clear it up.

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