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Re: Early Rise
Posted by Onlooker
12/27/2005  5:53:00 AM
There is nothing that looks worse than a lady on step six with a limp foot and ankle. If you haven't yet worked it out that if a person goes to a side together or pass it is always from two toes. In this part of the Spin Turn the lady is going from a toe ( which at first is a heel lead ) to a toe then another toe and lower. Good contact with the floor, most certainly.
The Weave from a down position rise at the end of one up for two continue to rise on three and lower at the end of three. Continue the same technique on 4 .5. 6. Haven't you guys realised yet that the rise and fall here is as all basic Waltz even the Change Step. New Years resolution. Buy a technique book and read it thorougly. Just one more word. The Reverse Weave was a Foxtrot and not a Waltz variation originally. So it does move. Don't forget the CBMP on 4. There is a bit of NFR in there also. Keep dancing and also reading.
Re: Early Rise
Posted by Dave
12/27/2005  8:02:00 AM
Onlooker. You are wrong about the rise in the weave from promenade diagonal to center. We are up on two and five we do not continue to rise on three and six. The whole point of my question was how do we produce the energy from say a Whisk to get that {early or quick} rise.
Re: Early Rise
Posted by Suomynona
12/27/2005  10:18:00 AM
There is going to be less continuation of the rise between 2-3 on a figure where the feet pass than on a normal waltz figure where they close. This is because "waltz rise" is the basic cause of foot closure - if you aren't going to close them, you aim lower and keep moving, for a softer crest.
Re: Early Rise
Posted by Onlooker
12/27/2005  8:39:00 PM
Dave. I did a direct quote from the book Alex Moore page 160. Here it is. The Weave from Promenade Psition. Rise and Fall. Commence to rise at the end of 1. Continue to rise on 2.Up on 3.Lower at the end of 3. Commence to rise at the end of 4( NFR). Continue to rise on 5. Up on 6. Lower at the end of 6. Contrary Body Movement. CBM on 2 and 5. 1st and 4th steps are in CBMP.The only difference between this and the normal technique in Waltz is because it is being used in what was a Foxtrot where we have no verticle lowering, so we are not supposed to get too high because we are travelling. I was always taught to say, down up up, down up up. Then that was changed to float on the ups. Once again from the book. It is attactive to hurry the timing a little on steps 1 and 2 so that a Hover effect can be made before placing the 3rd step in position. The continuance of the rise on steps 2 and 5 enhances the rhythmic feeling of this figure.End of Quote. As I said before , get a technique book. If you wanted to know the difference between a Heel Pull and a Heel Turn there it is in two sentences. One being . The feet may be kept apart instead of closed and the weight is more forward than in a Heel Turn. As I said before. It's all in the book.
Re: Early Rise
Posted by Don
12/27/2005  8:53:00 PM
Dave. How do we produce the energy From a Whisk to get that early or quick rise.
We must compress. Bend the Knee, Flex the knee, whatever you may call it.My teacher uses the words Recharge, store the energy which can be then used.Like a piece of twisted elastic. That is stored energy to be released..
Re: Early Rise
Posted by Dave
12/28/2005  6:28:00 AM
Don. I am afraid there is more to it than that.The compresion thing works well enough coming out of a telamark,but out of a wisk even good dancers can have a problem dancing it with ease. I suspect it has also to do with timing and the head weight being well forard of the body in the left sway. Perhaps someone with a technique book can give the answer.
Re: Early Rise
Posted by Don
12/29/2005  3:32:00 AM
Dave. For the lady in a Whisk there is an unusuall foot position, or if you like, shaping of the foot on step 2, not in the book. If it is done correctly it can cure a few problems on the way out.
There is sway on 2 and 3. The man stays square. The ladies feet will make a quarter of a turn between 1 and 2. but her body turns slightly less. Her body will complete the turn on 3. All of the last paragraph is straight from the book.
If you are into foot positions there is an unusual foot position for the man and lady on step 2 of a Reverse Fallway.
Re: Early Rise
Posted by Anonymous
12/29/2005  2:12:00 PM
It's worth noting that the ISTD and IDTA differ on the placement of the lady's foot turn: one is between 1 and 2 and the other is between 2 and 3
Re: Early Rise
Posted by John
12/27/2005  5:53:00 AM
Phil. I believe it is the second step that is small going into the weave, also don't over turn between step two and three.
Re: Early Rise
Posted by phil.samways
12/27/2005  10:32:00 AM
John - you're right. Still finishing off the christmas wine this end!!

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