cdroge. The other thread i refered to is under "Is there an and count". Might be worth looking at.

Lowering at the end of the feather the (RF) has to be far enough out in front of the body so the you can lower and roll smoothly through the whole foot. Why should you pop up when the body action is forward and then slightly up. It's a THT because we don't want to break the moving over the foot into two parts instead of one. Are we talking about the same step?

"Lowering at the end of the feather the (RF) has to be far enough out in front of the body so the you can lower and roll smoothly through the whole foot. Why should you pop up when the body action is forward and then slightly up. It's a THT because we don't want to break the moving over the foot into two parts instead of one. Are we talking about the same step?"

Obviously not, because neither dancer has THT anywhere in a feather. Feather finish yes, but not the feather.

In terms of the step on which you wukk lower needing to be placed in advance of the body, this is true - otherwise you will lower into it's toe and not it's heel. However, the way you get it ahead of your body is to use sway to point your entire body along a vertical diagonal at it's position - you can't just reach it out there on it's own without grossly distorting your outside partner position. You also want to delay placing it until your body has had a chance to drift through step 2 - if you can't yet drift step 2, your step 3 distance will be very small, and you shouldn't rise very much or you will "trip" over your step 3 placement when the rise energy gets converted back to speed.

You may not wan't to call it a THT but you better use the ball toe of the RF if you want to push off from it into the next slow,so I dont know what else you would call it

"You may not wan't to call it a THT but you better use the ball toe of the RF if you want to push off from it into the next slow,so I dont know what else you would call it "

It's still unclear what step you are talking about, but rest assured there is no step for either partner in the feather which is danced "THT".

The core problem here is that you are using a precise language casually. Review Moore's definitions on footwork terminology and you'll understand that when a part of the foot is specifically mentioned in the letter code it must be reached before the end of the step, however the usage of other parts of the foot after the end of the step is in some cases implied, but will not be part of the letter code because it is not part of that actual step but a follow through action instead.

The way the body leaves a TH step to move forward to a H or HT step, is different than the way the body leaves a HT step to move to a T step.

Formally, the means of departing the TH step 3 of a feather towards step 4, is the same as the means of departing the H step 4 of a feather towards step 1 of an (ISTD) three step, in that the toe of the standing foot is reached only after the new moving foot has passed to end the step. In contrast, the HT step 1 has the weight reach the toe before the end of the step.