"When turning if your arms where outstretched the inside arm will be going slower than the outside if they are going to keep in line with each other."

Yes, however one of the reasons for creating an internal twist in the body is so that you can start dancing the turn, without rotating your arms yet.

"Fold your arms into a ballroom position its now your elbows which are keeping in line and the outside elbow if we measured has the farthest to go and will go faster. The man's frame stays in line otherwise we will twist torque corkscreew whatever you care to call it.I am not suggesting that you can't if you want to you, you can twist as much as you like. But I can say this is not the way you would be taught if you were competing."

The frame should not twist relative to the upper chest and back that it is attached to, but these together with the arms will indeed sometimes need to rotate relative to the hips, or stay more stationary while the hips rotate relative to them. If you haven't encountered that yet, you haven't been studying with top competition coaches long enough.

Anonymous. Exactly which step is it that the arms stay and the hips rotate

"Anonymous. Exactly which step is it that the arms stay and the hips rotate"

It is not an entire step, it is a phase of action that occurs within a step. A good example would be the very beginning of a reverse turn.

But there are situations that come closer to what you asked for too - for example, first step and a half of an open natural from promenade.

Anonymous. Here we go again. I think you are on a Waltz. Reverse Turn just apply CBM. Open Natural CBMP. I don't think my hips or shoulders are not in line. Don't forget on the Reverse we have a flexing and the used of the knee twice on the Reverse. The second one is the one that is usually missing, so there is no swing and you have a very dull Reverse Turn in the Waltz.
There is a couple of knee bending and pushing off in the Open Natural but we will leave that one. Are you finishing with a Chasse.

I forgot to put my name on that one

Anonymous, you seem to be well versed in mechanics physics and geometry. I will therefore pose this question to you. What is the point of inflection (a calculus term used to describe the mid point where something changes direction or shape) in your body as you finished taking the step with the CBM and does it change as you are moving through the step. At first I though it was the torso area (not to include the hips) but I've been told that it is around the upper thigh to lower hip area. What's your take on this?

"Anonymous, you seem to be well versed in mechanics physics and geometry. I will therefore pose this question to you. What is the point of inflection (a calculus term used to describe the mid point where something changes direction or shape) in your body as you finished taking the step with the CBM and does it change as you are moving through the step. At first I though it was the torso area (not to include the hips) but I've been told that it is around the upper thigh to lower hip area. What's your take on this?"

A point of inflextion is a root of the 2nd derivative, or a place where a curve switches from "curve up" to "curve down" (maybe we should say concave to convex). Is that what you wanted?

Or are you looking for a local maximum/minimum, which is to say a root of the first derivative, or in plain English, the forwardmost or rearwardmost part of the shape? For that, I would say that it should be something along the lines of the "low center" or the center of mass - or the projection of that through the leading side of the body.

Some people might see it as being lower, but I think that is reflected in the perhaps overshaped shape of their dancing. I'd like to see the leading element or center of movement more closely matching the center of the thing that is moving - which is the entire body.

El Capitan.We need to find what torque means to you. To me it means to twist.
If I bring both sides of my body around equally is not torque and my spine will be straight. If I twist my shoulders or my hips so they do not align with each other then I have a twisted spine.I would call that torque.
CBM. CBMP. can both be applied without twisting the spine. But if I lose that verticle position you will twist. Keep that up long enough your dancing days will be numbered.
When somebody started to use the word torque, did they mean to rotate or twist. Torquer comes from the Latin which means to twist. The other meaning is a mechanical force that causes rotation. Do you have any thoughts of which is correct when applied to turning. Best of Luck.

"If I twist my shoulders or my hips so they do not align with each other then I have a twisted spine.I would call that torque."

You would be wrong.

Torque is a rotational force. But because angular momentum is conserved, merely rotating does not imply that a torque is present during the rotation.

"But if I lose that verticle position you will twist."

Vertical alignment and twist are not related.

Anonymous. I am always willing to get a little bit more education.
I can see that torque and verticle alignament are are not related. I can be flat on my back which is not verticle and I can easily move my hips or twist or torgue without moving my upper body or I can move my upper body without moving the hips. For me both are to be to be avoided whilst dancing.I would avoid this like I would the plague. Unless proved otherwise Torque is what we do to the cap of a bottle of sauce when we open it. But if as I turn the cap I allow the bottle to rotate I would not call that torque or twist. I would call that turning around my centre. Or if you like rotation.