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Re: Fallaway Rev. Slip Pivot.
Posted by Quickstep
10/26/2006  8:07:00 PM
Anonymous. You go ahead and argue it out with Richard Gleave. I can give you his number.
Re: Fallaway Rev. Slip Pivot.
Posted by Anonymous
10/26/2006  9:08:00 PM
"Anonymous. You go ahead and argue it out with Richard Gleave. I can give you his number."

Quickstep, there is no question that Gleave's method is a practical way to dance.

The question is, does the figure which it produces move in the directions given for a textbook fallaway reverse and slip pivot?

And the answer is clearly no - it is a different figure. A practical substitute, yes, but as with most substitutes advocated by the rigid body school, a fundamentally different figure. Such are the consequences of refusing to twist your body, in the situations where those who plan to move on the textbook path would need to utilize a twist.

If you draw a line between the commencing foot position and the placement of the first step of a classic or textbook FRSP, every subsequent step will fall on the "wall" side of this line (I am talking about placement, not orientation) On the other hand, if you use Gleave's method, your path will soon have curved across to the other side of that line and your steps will fall to the center side of it.

Given your love of isolated trivia though, I'm going to predict you ignore the substance of this difference in path across the floor and pretend it to be a simple contest of reputations. I invite you to prove me wrong about that, by actually understanding what makes these two different figures.
Re: Fallaway Rev. Slip Pivot.
Posted by Anonymous
10/26/2006  9:12:00 PM
Also keep in mind that while a textbook slip pivot has a passing-brush-while-curving action to step four, a curved feather does this on step three. The result is that you end step three already having danced a lot of what was, in the original, to be saved for the slip pivot.

This curved method works - but it is very different dancing, a fundamentally different figure.
Re: Fallaway Rev. Slip Pivot.
Posted by Anonymous
10/26/2006  9:13:00 PM
aaah, I mean a curved three does this curing pass brush on step three, why do I keep tying curved feather?
Re: Fallaway Rev. Slip Pivot.
Posted by Quickstep
10/31/2006  1:19:00 AM
Doing the Reverse Fallaway Richard Gleave's way. After the third step I feel that I am simply changing places with the lady which gives me a feeling of moving slightly against the LOD. As long as it looks ok so what. What I have noticed on tapes it is being done so smooth and effortless. Its over before it registers what they are doing. There's no big so lets go. Just smooth from beginning to end.
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