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Re: Hover cross
Posted by Anonymous
11/1/2006  3:58:00 PM
It will probably work, but you will need to be careful of the dynamics. Practice it, think about it, shouldn't take long to work it out. Remember natural and reverse actions aren't mirror images of each other, nor are natural outside partner and left outside mirror images.
Re: Hover cross
Posted by Don
11/1/2006  6:52:00 PM
Intersting. At first I thought you were doing the first three of a Reverse V. Cross. That feels like a Double Reverse for a lady and turns to to the left. Then I wondered if you are doing the girls steps of a normal Hover Cross but it turns to the right ( clockwise) and does has the girls RF over the LF. But then you speak of a regular Hover Cross, that one as a man turns to the right and has the LF over the RF. So now I don't know whether your Arthur or Martha.. Now I am confused. I think I will stop for a cup of coffeee.
Re: Hover cross
Posted by Podee
11/2/2006  1:40:00 AM
Dancing as man ,Dance a hover cross that turns to the left, come back out the way you entered,dancing a feather finish to your right checking on your left foot, you are now in the cross position of a normal hover cross! finish as you like.
Re: Hover cross
Posted by joep
11/24/2006  3:53:00 PM
Yes there is mostly used in a corner and in the slow walz

man crosses left feet before right feet in count 1 step out in 3 and afterwards
count 3-1&2 turn to the left
Re: Hover cross
Posted by Quickstep
11/24/2006  6:29:00 PM
Podee. There is only one Hover Cross. The answer to your question Is there a Hover Cross to the left the answer is no there isn't.
Re: Hover cross
Posted by Anonymous
11/24/2006  9:19:00 PM
"Podee. There is only one Hover Cross. The answer to your question Is there a Hover Cross to the left the answer is no there isn't."

Try having a little imagination... it might do your dancing some good.
Re: Hover cross
Posted by Waltz123
11/24/2006  9:46:00 PM
Actually I can think of about a half-dozen different common versions of a Hover Cross. Most are variations on entry/exit. For example, it's very common to omit the heel turn and enter instead from an Open Natural (especially from PP), Pivots, Outside Spin, etc. Common exits are Reverse Pivots, Weaves, or simply exit in PP.

Variations on the position itself are fewer, but it's common to play with the shaping in one way or another. Some prefer having the lady's head open with more of a rotary "Hinge"-style shape, while others prefer the lady to stay closed, and lay it out into more of a linear Same-Foot Lunge shape (not the base, mind you, which is still taking the Hover Cross Position O.P. on left, up on toes).

There's also quite an assortment of "Hover Passes", which are variations of the Hover Cross where instead of checking and reversing your direction on step 4, you continue moving through the position in the same direction. There are two main varieties of Hover Pass: The Traveling Hover Pass, and the Circular Hover Pass.

These, of course, are all variations of natural turning Hover Crosses. The reverse would certainly be easy enough to do... Easier than the natural version, actually, because the cross position would entail using right-side O.P. position, which is a much easier position to achieve than left-side. I imagine it would take a pretty strong leader to pull it off without a flaw on a social dance floor, however, because your average follower would probably be expecting a Closed Telemark.

Also, I wouldn't do the exact mirror image -- Instead of O.P. with your LF on step 6, it would be more sensible to take steps 5-6 as a Running Finish-type action, with the following forward step on the RF O.P. on right. Keep in mind that this leaves you moving D.W. against LOD, so be cautious about traffic, and flip it back around ASAP with some sort of natural action. Or better yet, check that RF step and back out into a Feather Finish (QQQQ).

Regards,
Jonathan
Re: Hover cross
Posted by Anonymous
11/25/2006  5:15:00 PM
D'oh... was going to try the reverse hover cross with heel turn entry on an unsuspecting victim today, and then plain forgot
Re: Hover cross
Posted by Anon
11/27/2006  1:13:00 AM
I am not one for changing names. A Hover Cross is a Hover Cross. What if I said we will have a Reverse, Natural Turn. Would that be right. Do it as you wish but give it a name of its own. If this keeps up we wont know if we are Arthur or Marther. Maybe we should have a Natural Double Reverse Spin.. Or how about a Natural Reverse Spin Turn.
Re: Hover cross
Posted by Anonymous
11/27/2006  1:34:00 AM
Hey Don,
there is a natural double reverse !!!

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