"Anonymos. I think you have an unfortunate choice of words here. I would in future take fall from my vocabulary when writting about dancing.
Moving from a higher to a lower level typicaly without controll"

Falling as used in dancing is a period of uncontrollable, or incompletely controllable movement that is carefull bounded by controlled periods that aim and conclude it.

What is seen as a falling in the sense of a fault is not really the fact that falling has occured (it must), but the lack of proper aim in initating the falling, and proper and timely recovery to terminate it.

You can't really control the falling, but you can control the result, by carefully choosing when you will begin falling, how far you will let it progress, and what you will do with the resulting body speed.

Nor can you avoid the falling and hope to have any fullness and elegance in your dance - it is mandatory.

Anonymous. Fall is. Moving from a higher level to a lower level typically without control.
This is still a bad word to use to describe a movement in any dancing. Taken literally, as anyone who is into physics would do, is to drop. We know though that we have knees to help us lower with control don't we.

"Anonymous. Fall is. Moving from a higher level to a lower level typically without control. This is still a bad word to use to describe a movement in any dancing. Taken literally, as anyone who is into physics would do, is to drop. We know though that we have knees to help us lower with control don't we."

You still don't understand the idea and necessity of falling.

Falling as used in dancing is a period of uncontrollable, or incompletely controllable movement that is carefull bounded by controlled periods that aim and conclude it.

What is seen as a falling in the sense of a fault is not really the fact that falling has occured (it must), but the lack of proper aim in initating the falling, and proper and timely recovery to terminate it.

You can't really control the falling, but you can control the result, by carefully choosing when you will begin falling, how far you will let it progress, and what you will do with the resulting body speed.

Nor can you avoid the falling and hope to have any fullness and elegance in your dance - it is mandatory.

Anonymous. I still can't think of a better way of finding the correct position to be in when moving backwards, than to to run backwards. I think you will agree that to stand on one foot and stay verticle that person is balanced. When we run backwards are we not on one leg and verticle on every step. Now lets run forwards. Feel that position and stay there to find out what is standing upright and moving.

"Anonymous. I still can't think of a better way of finding the correct position to be in when moving backwards, than to to run backwards. I think you will agree that to stand on one foot and stay verticle that person is balanced. When we run backwards are we not on one leg and verticle on every step. Now lets run forwards. Feel that position and stay there to find out what is standing upright and moving. "

Most people - with a few notable exceptions - lean substantially forward from the waist when the run, in a position that would be totally incompatible with dancing.

While out jogging sometimes, I will use shop windows as mirros to try to restore my body alignment to a vertical one comptaible with dancing, but it feels very odd. Dancing shares the flight of running, but it is a very different body position that 99% of people would care to run in.

Anonymous. I don't agree.If you have to look in a shop window to adjust your posture than something is wrong. Watch a runner in a 400 metre race. Do you see them leaning forward. There legs carry their body not the other way around. I chose a 400 race because in a sprint they are coming off the blocks, and at the end they dip. But watch the middle section of the race. There is only one balance point for us or anybody else. What would happen to a tight rope walker if he wasn't upright, as upright as a sprinter. How about a gymnast on the beam. You've said enough times that you believe the body travells in front of the legs, and you still carry the same mistake even now. If you do it that way you are not balanced. As I said we have one point of balance whether it's your spine or a spirit level. Again we have only one point of balance there is no other. If you can, name another.

"Anonymous. I don't agree.If you have to look in a shop window to adjust your posture than something is wrong."

A mirror is needed when you wish to change a habit, because a habit is as much about how the calibration of how you perceive your body position by feel as it is about how you create that body position.

"Watch a runner in a 400 metre race. Do you see them leaning forward."

Perhaps not as much as I do, but still not a proper dance posture. And most ordinary people will lean forward.

"There legs carry their body not the other way around."

You might want to talk to someone who studys sports motion. There is also a lot of body carrying leg going on too.

"What would happen to a tight rope walker if he wasn't upright, as upright as a sprinter. How about a gymnast on the beam."

Balance is easier upright, but the body can be balanced in non-upright positions. Watch chinese circus performers instead of western ones.

"You've said enough times that you believe the body travells in front of the legs, and you still carry the same mistake even now."

It's not a mistake, it's physical fact in how you yourself walk down the street. And how you should, but probably are not yet, dancing.

"If you do it that way you are not balanced."

Yes, that's my argument - dancing, like walking, is not balanced. I predict you will now conveniently forget those Marcus Hilton comments and try to claim that no pro would ever say that dancing is anything other than always balanced.

"As I said we have one point of balance whether it's your spine or a spirit level. Again we have only one point of balance there is no other. If you can, name another. "

What is a point of balance?

You have a center of mass, and you have an area of floor contact (well, you seem to want to have two areas). If your center of mass is over your area of potential floor pressure, or between your areas of potential floor pressure, you are balanced. If it isn't, you are not balanced. In walking, especially if you swing the moving leg ahead of the body, there will be a period of time when the center of mass is most definitely ahead of the only area of floor pressure. During that time you are off balance and you are falling. Though you do not feel like you are, so I am quite sure you will insist on denying this physical fact that is so well known to anyone who has taken time to study pictures of the action.

Anonymous. To Carry. To move or transport from one place to another.
Then how can my body carry my legs. Without the wheels we are flying .

"Anonymous. To Carry. To move or transport from one place to another.
Then how can my body carry my legs. Without the wheels we are flying ."

While your standing leg is carrying your body, your body is carrying your moving leg!

The fact that the moving foot may be touching the floor does not change this in any way - the entire body weight, including that of the moving leg, is either being borne by the standing leg (the moving leg portion by way of the body) or is in fact momentarily not being supported by anything outside the body at all. Both of course have their time in most actions.

Anonymous. "Your body is carrying your moving leg ". No it isn't. it is the thrust or power off the standing leg that moves the body through the middle onto the new standing leg. The body goes nowhere without the legs. Ask a person who hasn't got any