"Anonymous. Are you saying that there are no neutral positions. You will have to say no because of what you have written before."

You are very careless in quoting.

There is no neutralization going into a reverse turn, because there is no loss of the left side lead.

A natural turn on the other hand would see each element of the body neutralize or pass through facing the direction of travel. But they most likely will not all pass through this at the same time. Nor is this likely to occur while the body is directly over the foot. So for a natual action all the elements neutralize at some point, but there is unlikely to be any point when they are all neutralized at once.

"Didn't you question the word rotate. And yet you are now using the word rotate often. I'll have to look that one up."

Yes, I used the word when I carefully drew a distinction between ROTATION vs. TURN

Anonymous. Every teacher and on every tape. After the third step of the Feather Step on the count of four /and/.
On the /and/ is when a dancer is supposed to be in a neutral position. You should be back to the position that you started. That is on the count of /and/. Once again, four /and/.

"Anonymous. Every teacher and on every tape. After the third step of the Feather Step on the count of four /and/.
On the /and/ is when a dancer is supposed to be in a neutral position. "

That may be the conventional word and what anyone is willing to publish, but if you would invest the trivial effort in getting an occasional in-person lesson with the best, you'd find out that it is not compatible with what most of them actually advocate.

Anonymous. I think it might be worth getting into this a little more concerning the left side leading, into a Reverse Turn after the third step of the Feather Step in the International style of Foxtrot Which i can see is not in the technique book by Alex Moore.
You will not disagee with that.
We start of with the first of the Feather diagnal to the centre at an angle of 55 degrees.
This is your way. The first of the Reverse is on that same line left shoulder leading. Do you now turn over your left foot and step to the side with your right.
Or do you step straight ahead
with the second step still on that same line,and turn on that second step to back LOD.
Think about this and answer. If you were in a class and you are starting at the Reverse Turn with the left foot. Would you really stand there with a left side leading to start.
We won't go into your way of going past the standing leg. That's another story.
It as become very obviouse that you have never passed any teaching examinations. I think if you had you would not have let any one try to instruct you this way. I would say you have wasted a lot of money.
Do you think a person who teaches different to the manuel should be let loose on a class as a teacher.
Lets have an answer please.

"Anonymous. I think it might be worth getting into this a little more concerning the left side leading, into a Reverse Turn after the third step of the Feather Step in the International style of Foxtrot Which i can see is not in the technique book by Alex Moore."

Exaclty - it is not in the book, because it is a refinement discovered since the book was written.

"The first of the Reverse is on that same line left shoulder leading. Do you now turn over your left foot and step to the side with your right."

No.

"Or do you step straight ahead
with the second step still on that same line,and turn on that second step to back LOD."

The "turn" does not happen until the second step, however the second step will go very slightly wide - moreso in a telemark than a a reverse turn however.

"If you were in a class and you are starting at the Reverse Turn with the left foot. Would you really stand there with a left side leading to start."

Yes.

"It as become very obviouse that you have never passed any teaching examinations."

It has long been know that the orthodox traiditon of teaching examinations is, if literally applied, out of touch with championship competitive practice.

"I think if you had you would not have let any one try to instruct you this way."

It's not my place to tell a champion/trainer of champions that he or she is wrong during the lesson in which I am paying a small fortune for his or her opinions. If I didn't think the teacher had some good ideas, of course I wouldn't go back. But they do, so I do.

"I would say you have wasted a lot of money."

You only waste money if you dismiss what the championship teacher has to say as soon as they contradict some point of supposedly orthadox technique.

"Do you think a person who teaches different to the manuel should be let loose on a class as a teacher."

Do you really want to learn to dance, or do you want to hide in your comfortable world of beginner approximations?

Anonymous. You must also believe that a Double Reverse Spin starts with the left side leading. How about a Fallaway. With a good lady teacher you would be lead into most of what you are doing. Does she actually as you are standing still or dancing solo say. I want your left side leading with no CBM. Next time out just check that that is actually what you are doing. What i am saying is that she might be doing the alignments for you.I know that my teacher , a male got me and said that i, that's me, are doing the ladies steps. I did it ,and didn't have a clue what it was i did.

Anonymous. So you do beleive that a person not teaching as it is in the book should be let loose to teach classes
If you had been dancing at that time you would know that the technique book was reissued only a few years ago.

"Anonymous. So you do beleive that a person not teaching as it is in the book should be let loose to teach classes
If you had been dancing at that time you would know that the technique book was reissued only a few years ago."

If you were a dancer and not a bookworm, you would know that the reissued technique book didn't scratch the surface of the difference between what is written and what the world's best dancers actually do or teach.

But you are content to hide in your little world with your textbook and your second rate teacher. Apparently you are too scared of rejection to seek out real champions to get some more up-to-date in person advice. Fact is, if you listen with respect they will be happy to teach you.

But listening with respect is clearly not something you are capable of, so...

Anonymous. So you are an unqualified person trying to teach something you can't do yourself.Would it not be better if you were to say. This is the way i am taught and it can be seen on DVD or tape at so and so. And give them the details of where to find it even if it is on a photo or information on The Learning Centre. Instead of writting Rubbish Rubbish. Or as you just wrote. Get some lessons with a world class professional.
Quite frankly by some of the advice you sometimes try to impart and the way you impart it. I'm beginning to think you are an egotistical bag of wind. Or maybe just an ego maniac.But you've been told that a few times before haven't you.. Anyway your always good for a laugh. How's that for a Sunday morning. Love and best wishes. Anna

"Anonymous. So you are an unqualified person trying to teach something you can't do yourself."

What exactly do you think I'm doing here other than defending it???

The problem for you and Don is that this issue is in the level of development which goes beyond what you will find fixed in any widely available source.

It is the kind of thing which you will only learn about from a source of authority if you get in the habit of periodically consulting with the club of retired champions whoc constitute the best teachers on the planet.

You may get hints of it from me, or from your daily teacher, or from some comment on a video - but if you want to know for sure, you must seek out the world's best teachers and ask questions. That's something that you can't do of a book or a video.