"Anonymous. What do you mean in it appears to say. One thing I can do is read and copy."

Good, then you will note the difference in footwork between the natural spin turn and the natural pivot turn, and will have thought about what that indicates!

"Explain where you get a Pivot on the ladies Heel Turn."

Not on, but INTO. See for example the running right turn. This is one of the few places where you actually should dance what most people mistakenly imagine a pivot to be. Everywhere else, you want to do somewhat less pivoting of the ball of foot against the floor and more simply driving through.

Anonymous. Is the Running Right Turn the one where the lady has a heel turn were a lot of people let the feet pass.

"Anonymous. Is the Running Right Turn the one where the lady has a heel turn were a lot of people let the feet pass."

Perhaps. It's a natural pivot turn, a followers heel turn, and a running finish.

And it's one of the few places where you would actually want to come close to dancing a full pivoting action, to help put the following heel turn on the spot.

Otherwise, spin turn, continued natural pivots, etc, you want to use less rotation of the foot against the floor, and more simply dancing though, sending both centers on as close to a common straight line of travel as possible.

Anonymous. If we do a Running Right after a Spin Turn. Does the lady have a heel turn on steps five six. If we did this twice in a routine would a judge seeing this twice and the mistake twice look at this as being a fault.

"Anonymous. If we do a Running Right after a Spin Turn. Does the lady have a heel turn on steps five six. If we did this twice in a routine would a judge seeing this twice and the mistake twice look at this as being a fault."

The beginning of a the running right turn is not steps 1 to 4 of the spin turn, it is steps 1 to 4 of the natural pivot turn, which as a different action than a spin turn does. See the difference in the lady's footwork for step 4.

If you do this true and literal pivot, you are positioned to dance into a followers heel turn. Otherwise, even in a series of "pivots" you probably want to dance something that suggests a pivoting action, but really isn't quite a complete one. A lot of the turn ordinarily is body relative to the foot - it isn't all foot pivoting against floor. But when it will be followed by a heel turn, it does come closer to being entirely foot pivoting on the floor, with the body staying more aligned to the foot than ordinary.

Anonymous. Does that mean i can't do a Running Finish after a Spin Turn.

"Anonymous. Does that mean i can't do a Running Finish after a Spin Turn."

No, but that hardly follows from anything that has been posted here.

You can't do a running finish after a spin turn because you are on the wrong foot, though that is easily fixed.

The comment here was the difference between step four of a natural pivot turn, vs step four of a spin turn, and how step the natural pivot turn action (rather than the spin turn step 4 action) is needed when it will be followed by a followers heel turn.

In the runnining right turn, 1-4 of the natural pivot turn is followed by that heel turn which is then in turn followed by the running finish.

A Pivot is a turn on the weighted foot up to a maximum of 1/2 turn.

In researching the definitions of a Pivot or a Pivot Turn it is like trying to make a selection from a very large menu in a Chinese Restaurant. About the only commonality is that a Pivot or Pivot Turn is a turn on the ball of the foot. From there every writer gets into the act adding their additional characteristics. The following are just a few of the other other definitions.

Another definition in common usage that says a Pivot is the same as what this writer defines as a Pivot Turn. Another definition states that the Pivot can be executed on the balls of both feet.

A Pivot Turn will be defined as a Pivot executing a 1/2 Turn (180 degrees) keeping the inner thighs together during the turn.

However, there are several other different definitions of a Pivot Turn in common usage as follows: (1) Defined as a full turn (360 degrees). (2) The same as this writer's definition of a Pivot.

Latin Diva. It might help if you realize that the man has a Toe Pivot in the Double Reverse Spin. Try doing an ordinary Pivot there and you will be in trouble with your partner. But it does say Pivot. In the Telespin somewhere between step 4 5 for the man it is simular. And yet an Open Telemark is not classed as a Toe Pivot. It's a pity the technique books don't list the different types of Pivots. In my book it doesn't. The differences is obvious. I think in many cases in any type of dancing we have to use some common sense. If you want to start an argument just question Swivels, especially in Latin. Best if luck.