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Re: Spot turns, Switch turns
Posted by Polished
11/11/2008  1:58:00 PM
Terence. I was looking at a Chasse in the East Coast Swing. I could not pick the difference between The International Jive and it. I always thought that the East Coast Swing was flattish without the bounce we see in Jive. I could be wrong.
Re: Spot turns, Switch turns
Posted by terence2
11/11/2008  11:26:00 PM
Again, a strong similarity.. after all, it was designed on R and R and E.C Swing. The notable absence is the " dig " accent that is prevalent in ECS. and they do count the rhythm differently ( many count it 1,2,3,..1,2,3, and rock step ) in reality it should be 1 and 2.. 3 and 4..1.2... another basic that " splits " 3 bars
Re: Spot turns, Switch turns
Posted by Polished
11/13/2008  5:46:00 PM
Terence. I know nothing about ECS. But I have watched a demonstration of the Basic Rock Step and Chasses. There appears to be Eight Steps over six beats of music. If that is correct why isn't the count 12 345 678 = 8 steps over 6 beats. This is how the International Jive is counted, or I should say . How it should be counted.
Re: Spot turns, Switch turns
Posted by terence2
11/14/2008  12:12:00 AM
The basic figure is supposed to reflect the rhythm of the music from that era ( it is loosely based on jazz among other native rhythms ).

This double syncop also occurs in many latin rhythms which I,m sure had a large influence.
"Styles" of dances are usually built around a musical concept, and are further developed by improvisation.

ECS is a much more relaxed form of Jazz/ Blues type music .
The "Swing " genre has its roots in many dances suchas.. Balboa, Lindy,etc.
ECS is really a hybrid ,that was constructed so that it could become a socially acceptable dance of its era. .
Re: Spot turns, Switch turns
Posted by Polished
11/15/2008  12:38:00 PM
One of our judges in Our Dancing with the Stars made a comment. They said I see you added a bit of ECS as well as Lindy in your Jive, all very aceptable.
I took that to mean they went from the bouncy action in their Jive to the flatter style and back again.
Re: Spot turns, Switch turns
Posted by terence2
11/16/2008  12:28:00 AM
if you think about that, its really an arrogant statement.

More correctly would be .. " I see you have added some Jive to your ECS ! ".
Re: Spot turns, Switch turns
Posted by emsanchez
1/15/2009  11:29:00 AM
Since the discussion no longer refers to the question originally asked but goes around jive and swing, does somebody know what is the meaning of the word "jive"?
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