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Re: Counting Ballroom Tango
Posted by terence2
2/25/2010  6:19:00 AM
I,m agreeing with you. I was "raised " on 2/4 as was all of my contempories.

As it so happens, Im teaching a beginners T/Arg w/shop at a mini congress and running a Practica this weekend ( fri nite ) and, Ive included mostly 2/4 type music ( added some 4/4 for distinction ).

PS.. the salsa " thing " is a close run with Slow trot and Tango..
Re: Counting Ballroom Tango
Posted by Cyd.
2/25/2010  2:40:00 AM
Telemark. As it was in the beginning. Both the 1st and the 2nd beats are accentuated. There were no strong or weak beats. If there were the Tempo is 4/4. Correct me if I am wrong but it appears as if you are advacating a 4/4 Tango without realising it otherwise you will bang your 66 beats each exactly the same as the last.
Re: Counting Ballroom Tango
Posted by Telemark
2/25/2010  8:04:00 AM
Correct me if I am wrong


Certainly:

1. In conventional Western musical notation and performance, no rhythmic pattern exists that does NOT have accented beats, and no pattern exists where every beat is accented (which of course is the same thing, just louder!).

2. Strong, Weak, Strong, Weak (the pattern of alternately accented beats) is the pattern of duple time (2/4), and that is NOT the rhythmic pattern of common time (4/4), where the stress pattern repeats over four beats, not two, with a primary stress on 1 and a secondary stress on 3. They are not interchangeable, and it is not merely a matter of different notation - ask a percussionist.

3. I am not advocating 4/4 tango - I find it loathsome, and contrary to the character of the dance. I accept the fashion, and can't change it, but NO respectable teaching society recognises tango danced to quick beats in groups of four, so I am not in a minority of one, am I?

4. 66 beats/minute 'banged out' each the same as the last is EXACTLY what current technique does advocate - wrongly, in my view. Tango 'works' in duple time at 66 bars/minute (so 132 beats/minute) with the rhythmic pattern of strong, weak applying to each pair of (quick) beats. If dancing a series of walks (slows), each walk would fall on an accented beat. This is something close to 4/4, but it is not the same, and they are not interchangeable.
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