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Re: Knee Bend in Viennese Waltz
Posted by Sarcastic Smoothie
6/28/2004  11:51:00 PM
Indeed you can take that idea one 'step' further and shuffle your feet rather than making precise weight changes as in the other dances. Done right this can add a lot of control and smoothness - though I was given this idea after a long history of doing the dance with weight changes, so I'm very aware of which foot my weight isn't completely on. I'm not sure what it would be like to try it that way from the start.
Re: Knee Bend in Viennese Waltz
Posted by Rha
6/29/2004  11:37:00 AM
In the V.Waltz, as in all other swing dances, one never bends the knee as a direct action. A bent knee is a reaction to the "compression" used to power the movement, which in turn is reaction to how you want to move your body thru the music.

One can use a good deal of compression , resulting in a fair amount of "lowering" but it will never look obvious if produced with the right dancing intent.

One can never measure the quality of the movement based on how much the knee has bent. If you compressed strongly, you will produce a longer length of stride and it follows that you will collect on a softer knee. One then has the power to produce a smooth and unaffected rise.

One often see couples trying deliberately to either bend or not bend their knees as a primary intent. The ones who try not to bend their knees end up with a stiffer movement without much flight. One can never get the combination of power, balance, continuity, length of stride, etc. from this idea. The ones who deliberately bend their knees get low and sitting back. They cannot produce the effortless power to produce the flight and rise so they pop-up creating a very obivous rise-n-fall which becomes the dominant characteristic of whatever swing dance they are doing.

Leave the bending of your knees to that which best, your body and the unthinking mind. It either knows or will figure out what it has to do if you leave it alone.
Re: Knee Bend in Viennese Waltz
Posted by ballrmdanceaddict
7/1/2004  6:32:00 PM
Thanks everyone for your responses. From the sounds of it, I should not make my knee bend my primary focus, which is fine since I have plenty of other things to focus on (frame 'maintenance', footwork, head weight, etc.).

Special thanks to quickstep for assuming that I was aiming for Blackpool. I aspire to be the best that I can be, and it would be nice to be at that level someday.

Viennese is actually one of my favorites for 2 reasons: 1) It is technically challenging; 2) Even at my level I am actually able to achieve that 'flight' feeling that you get while dancing it.

Those are just the two main reasons are why I am pestering this so much, so I really do appreciate all the good advice! Thanks again!
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