, Dear Don, no more question about facing DC since local time 1:14PM. Now I understood what you said here.
DC is 45 degree anti-clockwise to man who facing LOD.Because of the limitation of floor, no one faces DC will stand close the center, so the clockwise movement is impossible to occur ( I had ever worried about it because of my previous stupid thinking ).
Comparing with other 4 dances, V Waltz looks like a little bit "sily." I hope someone develops it soon.

Yichen-1. Now that I know that you are not a member of the fairer sex I will have to look at you questions from a different point of view. Doug

Would you please tell me the meaning about " fairer sex", why it was linked to a different point of view ?

YIchen-1. Fairer sex(LADY). You said you were a Man,so my advice would be different to a Man as the man leads and shapes more than the lady . her balance is also different.

,Dear Doug, Thanks for your explanation .I used my true name when I registere here. Yiling is a female name .I had straight introduced myself to prevent from unnecessary guess. Also, I always asked lady parts in my questions , and empphasized I am a follower...
Now I feel comfortable because of that I care of what you think of me. It is not easy to know the people who she / he is .
Doug, when I review your previous post , I confused again. If I am not a member of " fairer" sex ( lady ) and not a "man" ( You had misunderstoot ) , who am I ?,
Doesn't metter. Forget it .

Yichen-1. Now I am confused? are you male or female. You read to much into a sraight forward question.

Yichin1. I think I can see the problem here. Finish eight bars of the Natural Turns in the V. Waltz facing or backing centre, depending if you are male or female. Take it from the man's positions. The change step should bring the man to face LOD. Now you can do the Reverse Turn starting with the left foot down LOD. Any attempt to place that foot diagnal to centre will cause an over rotation. That technique is also applied to the Natural Turn. You do not try to start the Natural facing diagnal to the wall. The foot goes down the LOD. The dance actually has a feeling of going sideways and not rotary
You have probably all ready wondered how the first step of the Reverse Turn is on 2 2 3 and not 1 2 3. That is because the dance goes out of phrase on the Reverse and comes back on the Natural. As I have said before you can for my money shove this dance. I have seen too many accidents. Two fractured hips and one fractured thigh and a couple of back injuries.One more thing. Keep your Reverse Turn flatish. The only rise needed is just enough to get the heel off the floor. Nowdays there is little to no sway on the Reverse. Just for the record Harry Smith Hampshire who passed away reciently could in his younger days do a hundred Fleckerls with a cup of coffee in one hand and a plate of biscuits in the other and drop nothing. Quite a character. Needless to say he won many a bet.

Don. Do you know what brand of cookies he used I would like to try that myself. Doug=droge

cdroge, If you do a search for Harry Smith Hampshire, The fist one up .There is some advice on the V. Waltz. He has a record of never being beaten in the V.Waltz. I dont know about the bisuits, the coffee was white with one sugar, I beleive. I don't know how anybody could even stand after 100 Fleckerl with or without the coffee and biscuits. You could also find his suggestions to the Dancing Authorities on re -examination for adjudicators to make sure they know what they are supposed to be judging. Whilst on this subject, only yesterday we had on pay TV. the European Modern Amatuer. At the end of each dance we at home see the marks. The British Champion an Italian, by one judge was being dropped to fifth place. He still won it. But that judge , I wonder if we were watching the same competition.

Don. YOu surprise me ,are you sure he was not drinking tea and from a china cup I would think, When we go camping everyone gets a good laugh at me drinking my tea from a china cup. When we won our first Novice comp there were 7 judges (unusual) 6 marked us first the seventh marked us 5th, she marked her own student first who came in 2cd,that is why it's best to have an uneven number of judges, but it usualy works out alright and the audiance always knows who the winner should be. I wish I had seen the comp that you saw on T.V. Cheers