" We are not using any muslce on the free leg..
When LF closes to RF ( 1-3 natural turn , waltz, lady.), do we use muscles on LF ?

"When LF closes to RF ( 1-3 natural turn , waltz, lady.), do we use muscles on LF ?"

The left foot closes as a result of the body swinging up towards the partner and right foot. The left leg would have disengaged as you departed it, and will re-engage only as you take weight on it by rising a tiny bit higher than you had been on the right foot, before beginning to lower.

Doug. Now we come to what is a debatable part of the foreward walk man or lady. Close observation of others, the lady in particular. You will find that many arrive on a bent knee, instead of a knee that should be straight, then flex.So that part where we are on the front heel and the back toe doesn't happen. Where can it be seen the most. After a Spin Turn. What you will see on the 4 5 6 of the Reverse, is something that is nearer a ball heel and bent, no heel lead, no staight knee. No help at all. In fact for three steps it ceases to be a Waltz.

Don. Most good dancers including my wife do dance a heal lead with the left foot after their brush tap when going into the 456 of the reverse. Doug

It's a brushing action, not a brush tap (which is a tango figure!)

But anyway, the step after a spin turn can be either a heel or a toe, depending on the type of rise that is lead. Normally it is a heel lead for the lady, but turning locks in either direction, the V6, etc have her go directly to the ball of foot without using the heel. It's up to the leader to lead the difference, since the lady doesn't know what step he's planning to do. Note that the leader really should be rolling through his heel out of step three in either case, but he will do it differently depending on the sort of rise he wants to create.

Annon. WHY don't you stick to the topic,which was 546 of the reverse turn danced after the spin turn. Most women call it a brush tap. YOu are right it is a brush and not a brush tap ,but why be so damn picky when someone other than yourself is trying to help a fellow dancer . Are you the designated expert on this website .

quite simply because it took me five minutes to figure out that you were still talking about waltz and hadn't switched to tango...

Annon. I refer you to Don at 3.58am where he clearly mentions the Waltz.

Go ahead and call it changing the subject if you like, but I think the lady's heel lead after a spin turn is the result of something the man does or doesn't do. If he leads a very horizontal action roling through his foot, she will come out and do a nice heel lead. If he just keeps falling backwards from the rise of the spin turn into step one, and doesn't reach bottom and start up again before the extent of the stride, then she will stumble onto her toe. And if he rolls through his foot but rises immediately from the heel, she will swing up onto a toe as used in the turning locks.

Three possibilities, which one is mostly up to the man. Of course it helps if the lady has ingrained habits for the two good ones and no tendancy towards the stumble on her own.

Anonymous. After a spin turn Modern Waltz, 456 of the Reverse. I would most definately lay a lot of the blame on the male. But also the lady for not complaining that they can't get the correct footwork or feel, and so it goes on. What I see is the man thinking that the bigger this step is the better. Which usually results in falling away. Another theory is that the centres got lost during the Spin Turn usually caused by the very first and second step ( a complete misunderstanding of NFR for the lady on one ). Two inches out on the first three will become more on the following three steps. From then on we are struggling to regain the poise we started with. Heres one for the theorists among us. Any type or style of dancing especially Latin. A step is just a step, it is on the bit in between that we actually dance. Try it and see if you can get more character, more expression from your dancing.