"To all. I am suprised that nobody has picked up my posting which was a direct copy of Jonathans words on the teaching section on this web site. I think my effort to get people to go there was in vain. The lamp and the Table. plus"

Anna. No one has picked up on it because ragardless of where you got it, it is simply bad advice incompatible with the practice of well developed dancing. The human body is not a table, and two tables cannot dance in closed hold...

"Phil. Has it entered your head that in a photo the couple may not have completed their movement."

Indeed, I'm glad you are recognizing this. Many of the situations in which the hips and shoulders must be turned to different angles are indeed transitory - but that does not mean they are unimportant or errors, because in plain fact they are mandatory for close coordination with a partner.

"If in the beginning, as a beginner, a pupil was told not to turn into the Basic Steps, but to turn at the end of. Maybe this argument might not be on the table. I know what I was taught as a beginner. For a Heel Turn Reverse Turn Foxtrot. We were told that at the end of the first step we were told to still be facing diag to wall and not to try to turn the step half way through the step."

Such an oversimplification is not ultimately workable. It is true that the upper body must not turn until late into a reverse CBM step, but something still has to turn at the start of the step if there is to be CBM, and that something would be the hips.

In practical terms, what happens is that the back knee tucks behind the front knee as the body projects off the standing foot into the step - but there is minimal rotation in the topline until the time of arrival over the newly placed foot.

If the lady is going backwards, she may find it useful to also turn her head along with her hip and foot, so that she is almost looking over her yet-unturned shoulder. The remainder of the heel turn action is little more than a simple neutralization from this initial body position.

"Boys and girls both had this to do, because there were many steps which later has the same technique.As you can see I got a bit of a roll on . All of this was not directed to you, but to the Society of Deliberately Twisting Spines."

Ah yes, the etenrally paused at half development society lecturing their betters... what you have learned is a beginner approximation, but it is missing the details of the full ation.

Anonymous. Just continuing on regarding CBMP and CBM I think a little common sense is needed here. The technique book is flawed and it would be impossible to write one that was not. Common sense. Step four of a Reverse Weave in the Waltz and any other simular step. With our partner outside so that we don't produce an ugly hip line we use what is called CBMP, there is no other way. So CBMP is to be used in that situation. But we also have CBMP in line as in the Change of Direction, and of course a Contre Check. These are left foot in line with partner in CBMP. There are in some of the instructions, the word would be, is used., not the straight forward step with left foot or right foot. To go back to my opening statement. a little bit of common sense is needed here. For anyone to write You ARE Wrong are forgetting that in a competition we are not limited, we can do what ever we please. Whether the judges like it is a different story. In the 20's as the Tango was done in those days. Todays dancers wouldn't get a mark from any judge. Which did actually happens once. This was told in a lecture by the first ever Star Champion Frank Ford. He said that a German dancer turned up at the British in Blackpool and took to the floor with this very staccarto type movement which we see today. At that moment the others were doing the usual soft English Old Time Style Tango. He got absolutly nowhere. But the next day he was inundated with requests from all over the country to demonstrate his Tango. That's what Frank Ford said and he was there.

Not much argument with you there... the people who were "WRONG" were those who thought that a CBMP step would cease to have CBMP if it also involved CBM. That's not really a dancing mistake, so much as a talking mistake.