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Incorrrect analogy but I shall deal with it.
Posted by jofjonesboro
1/22/2009  5:29:00 AM
A mesesage board bears much more similarity to a debate than to a trial but I'll humor you long enough to point out the flaw in your argument.

What you say about reasonable doubt is true only in a criminal trial in which the opposing sides have different goals. In a civil dispute (which much more closely resembles a message-board argument), either side must demonstrate that its case is supported by a "preponderance of the evidence."



jj
Re: burden of proof
Posted by Some help
1/22/2009  6:25:00 AM
The standard of proof may be different in civil versus criminal matters, but it's still the plaintiff that has to meet the standard - not the defendant.
Well, you challenged me
Posted by jofjonesboro
1/22/2009  1:19:00 PM
so you're the "plaintiff" in this scenario.



jj
Re: Well, you challenged me
Posted by Some help
1/22/2009  4:23:00 PM
No, you're trying to be the prosecutor:
You are the one who is trying to use your 12 years experience to "prove" that pro-am is bad.
I'm just saying that, even without someone coming forward to defend the pro-am position, if I'm a judge or a member of a jury, you haven't proved your case to me, not by reasonable doubt, manifest weight of evidence or preponderance of the evidence.

You cannot be both judge and participant
Posted by jofjonesboro
1/22/2009  7:22:00 PM
in a dispute.

I use my experience to advise others. Period. If you feel offended by my advice, too bad.

You responded to my post; I did not invite you to join the dispute.

I frankly could not care less whether I convince you of anything.

It's your money. Go ahead and waste it.



jj


Re: You have painted yourself into a corner.
Posted by Anonymous
1/21/2009  11:12:00 AM
"You made the claim that I have made "poorly researched" arguments but cannot substantiate that claim."

Here's an example - your habit of assuming that what goes on in the backwater known as Atlanta must also be the way it is everywhere else.

What you see there is probably representative of the majority of dance settings in your country, but it is not representative of the important ones from a skill-in-dancing perspective.
I have been very straightforward about my
Posted by jofjonesboro
1/22/2009  5:40:00 AM
background and location and have made clear where my experience lies.

You, on the other hand, have been forthcoming about nothing. You can't even admit that you don't have a partner, a fact which is clear from the silliness of many of your posts.

When you're ready to start being more forthright about yourself and your dancing then your gripes about my background will bear some weight.

Do you mean to say that your locale is superior to others in whatever you may mean by the expression "skill-in-dancing perspective"?



jj
Re: I have been very straightforward about my
Posted by anymouse
1/22/2009  7:49:00 PM
"You can't even admit that you don't have a partner, a fact which is clear from the silliness of many of your posts."

As we were saying, you have a habit of running away with your assumptions
Then answer the question.
Posted by jofjonesboro
1/22/2009  7:58:00 PM
Do you have an amateur partner?

All you have to do is either affirm that you have a partner or admit that you don't. It's not hard; it's called "telling the truth." Your refusal to answer justifies any assumption that I or anyone else cares to make.

As I have pointed out in the past, your contributions to discussions of dancing technique demonstrate that you do not know how to lead. If you had an amateur partner then you would have learned to do so.



jj
Re: Then answer the question.
Posted by anymouse
1/22/2009  10:12:00 PM
"As I have pointed out in the past, your contributions to discussions of dancing technique demonstrate that you do not know how to lead."

Nope, all you've done is prove your own ignorance of the subject.

And unfortunately, the understandable bitterness from your negative experiences with pro/am seems to have distracted you from pursuing serious improvement in your own dancing.

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