Most of us have tackled the Viennese Waltz Natural Turns, and strangly without realizing it we are mostly correct. Nobody would try to swing at the same time as our partners would we. The man swings the lady lets him pass, the lady flies the man lets her pass. So we get to the Natural Turn in modern and what happens. The lady takes off at the wrong time and yet in the V. Waltz she will hold her position untill the person on the outside is past. I think it all comes down to teaching don't you?.