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Re: How does lady create a good down swing in wa
Posted by Nod
8/10/2005  8:57:00 PM
Dancefad. Just looking back over the foot rise thing. Lets go to a TH. it has to be THT. because the heel can't stay in contact with the floor and move onto the next step. So in the book the second quick of the Feather Step is TH.I think this makes sense. The step is TH. We are finished with that beat, so what happens after is not being mentioned, its gone , it's history. The heel of course will leave the floor only as the next step is taken on its beat. If in the techniques books it had said THT we would have people popping up like a bouncing ball. Now let this technique be carried onto heel leads or any other step that can be found.
Re: How does lady create a good down swing in wa
Posted by jerryblu
6/30/2005  12:40:00 PM
Can you tell me the name and author of the "tec book"? I've never seen one. Is that because I dance American style?

Jerry
Re: How does lady create a good down swing in wa
Posted by dancer
6/30/2005  6:36:00 PM
yes, the technique book is for international style. Although DVIDA syllabus (american style) -see dancevision website - also publishes books that is very similar in layout to the international style book.
Re: How does lady create a good down swing in wa
Posted by ylchen-1
7/1/2005  12:09:00 AM
Thanks for your advice .
In ballroom , lady is a Ghost in dress ): lithely flowing with the man... I prefered to imagining lady is a peri).
Re: How does lady create a good down swing in wa
Posted by DanceFad
7/1/2005  1:22:00 AM
// any backwards step 1 - can you find one that has foot rise? //

Who's asking,Anon? Any student studying for a ballroom pro exam would immediately name the Feather Finish, as man, in the Slow Foxtrot.The 4 Quick Run in the Quickstep. There are also figures where the backward half of a turn is danced with rise which was created on the previous figure.
Re: How does lady create a good down swing in wa
Posted by Nod
7/4/2005  4:38:00 AM
Dance fad. Interesting. I will copy straight from the book word for word.
"Note that although the man is on the inside of the turn on the last part of the figure, he will get foot rise on step four. This exception to the usual rule is to enable him to get a good forward swing into the following Feather Finish ". You will have no doubt noticed that the lady on the first step of the Reverse Turn has NFR. I think the main theme here was that too many ladies do get foot rise on their first step of a Natural Turn Modern Waltz, thus taking the man's centre away from him. This also can happen on the man's second half of the turn. I think that the first discusion on this thread was on Modern Waltz.
Re: How does lady create a good down swing in wa
Posted by DanceFad
7/4/2005  5:10:00 AM
*// For instance. In the Waltz AS IN OTHER DANCES there is no foot rise on the back half of any turn //*

Don. I'm only quoting from your message. I've made one of your statements in caps and it was this statement I answered too. Your message is there for everyone to read. The next message also stated *// any backwards step 1 - can you find one that has foot rise? //*

Re: How does lady create a good down swing in wa
Posted by Don
7/8/2005  1:08:00 AM
Dancefad. I think you will find that foot rise on that particular step has been long gone by the competition dancer. The technique now is to allow the lady, who has the furthest to go, more time to do so, and for the man not to arrive before the lady completes her step. You must remember when that book was written the ladies poise was very square to the man and not way out to the mans right. I think therein lies the clue. Not forgetting that the author of the original book said this is not to be taken with a parrot like mentality. Unfotunately if you are being examined from the technique book . In those days they knew nothing about getting out of each others way and seem to have carried this mentality into the present day.. So the lady will jam that first of a Reverse Turn backing diagonal to the centre no matter what. It just isn't done that way anymore. But in an exam you will have to answere as in the book. Try telling your examiner, that on that particular step, ( the fourth of the Reverse), that there is a slight shaping of the foot and a slight curve to the centre which brings both feet pointing in the same direction just before the Feather Finish. Any comments.
Re: How does lady create a good down swing in wa
Posted by Nod
7/8/2005  1:18:00 AM
Yichen. My teacher says that he doesn't think about a down step. gravity takes care of that with the length of the step. His main concern is showing a good rise and getting high on the toes and the feet neatly together.
Re: How does lady create a good down swing in wa
Posted by DanceFad
7/8/2005  4:07:00 AM
Don. So are you saying that the man does not have a foot rise on step 4 of the reverse turn in the slow foxtrot? Are there any other message board writers who agree with this? I for one do not!

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