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Re: Continuous pivot turn
Posted by Anonymous
12/19/2006  12:38:00 PM
"Anonymous. Does that mean i can't do a Running Finish after a Spin Turn."

No, but that hardly follows from anything that has been posted here.

You can't do a running finish after a spin turn because you are on the wrong foot, though that is easily fixed.

The comment here was the difference between step four of a natural pivot turn, vs step four of a spin turn, and how step the natural pivot turn action (rather than the spin turn step 4 action) is needed when it will be followed by a followers heel turn.

In the runnining right turn, 1-4 of the natural pivot turn is followed by that heel turn which is then in turn followed by the running finish.
Re: Continuous pivot turn
Posted by latindiva
12/18/2006  5:23:00 AM
A Pivot is a turn on the weighted foot up to a maximum of 1/2 turn.

In researching the definitions of a Pivot or a Pivot Turn it is like trying to make a selection from a very large menu in a Chinese Restaurant. About the only commonality is that a Pivot or Pivot Turn is a turn on the ball of the foot. From there every writer gets into the act adding their additional characteristics. The following are just a few of the other other definitions.

Another definition in common usage that says a Pivot is the same as what this writer defines as a Pivot Turn. Another definition states that the Pivot can be executed on the balls of both feet.

A Pivot Turn will be defined as a Pivot executing a 1/2 Turn (180 degrees) keeping the inner thighs together during the turn.

However, there are several other different definitions of a Pivot Turn in common usage as follows: (1) Defined as a full turn (360 degrees). (2) The same as this writer's definition of a Pivot.

Re: Continuous pivot turn
Posted by Don
12/18/2006  3:15:00 PM
Latin Diva. It might help if you realize that the man has a Toe Pivot in the Double Reverse Spin. Try doing an ordinary Pivot there and you will be in trouble with your partner. But it does say Pivot. In the Telespin somewhere between step 4 5 for the man it is simular. And yet an Open Telemark is not classed as a Toe Pivot. It's a pity the technique books don't list the different types of Pivots. In my book it doesn't. The differences is obvious. I think in many cases in any type of dancing we have to use some common sense. If you want to start an argument just question Swivels, especially in Latin. Best if luck.
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