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re: when you must DIY - good tips?
Posted by mira
7/21/2003  4:24:00 AM
Dear Dance Champion,
Again thank you very much for for encouragement and some excellent tips (like going on a dancing vacation...I have never considered that option). As soon as our present heavy commitments in work/family lessen somewhat, that is what we shall almost certainly do. Meanwhile we shall work on what we have and, who knows, perhaps the world of clubs and studios will catch up with us finally?

Thank you and good luck with your dancing,
Mira
re: when you must DIY - good tips?
Posted by mira
7/18/2003  7:39:00 AM
Dear Phil,
Again, I am much moved by the fact that you decided to give me some of your time. This feels very nice, too, because in my country there is still this feeling of ridicule when people of my age want to learn a new social skill...all such are supposedly "for the young" .

The video you suggest is one I did indeed start with last November ( we had the Learn to Dance-Latin DVD). It sure was not intimidating!and it really gave me the idea that the DIY was possible. By now we have covered every dance there backwards and forwards. The steps featured are very easy, but of course there is a much bigger question of learning to connect and communicate - now, that still is a different story. I wonder if anyone teaches those question on a video?
Anyway, it was very heartening to hear that even an experienced dancer like you also puts faith in the videos!!!!Now I hope never to stop learning.

Thank you for posting,
Mira
re: when you must DIY - good tips?
Posted by mira
7/18/2003  3:07:00 AM
Thank you for taking the time to reply.
As to your warning that we may thus never learn to dance with other people, I take your point.OK. But even in my teen days I have never been asked to dance very much, so now the prospect does not worry me particularly.Another sure bonus is that dancing seems the best keep fit program I have yet tried - and that will last whatever.

Wish you even more enjoyment of your dancing!
Mira
re: when you must DIY - good tips?
Posted by Dronak
7/17/2003  9:18:00 AM
Well, you can certainly learn some basics of dancing from books or videos. They're just not the best way to learn -- you can't get any feedback and tell if you're really doing it right or not. I'm not sure doing this stops your skills, but what it can do is give you bad habits that once started are difficult to break. The main problem with partner dancing like this is that if you get into bad habits with your regular partner, you may find it very difficult to dance with someone else because you and your partner have been compensating for each other's little mistakes to make it work for you two that they've turned into bad habits that won't work with other dancers. But any time you try to learn something without a teacher you run the risk of getting into bad habits. It's up to you to decide how to handle it.

If you can't find any dance teachers or friends who dance that could help you, then you'll have to try books and/or videos if the only other option is not learning at all. Videos are probably better because you can see all of the movements and exactly how they're done. Rewind and replay as much as you want, in slow motion if that helps, and you should be able to learn things fairly well if you have good "copy what I do" learning skills. There has to be video material available for the European market; I think that at least two major ballroom dance organizations are based in the UK. They can't make everything in American video formats. I can't really help you on that though because I'm in the US; I don't know where to find non-US videos. Books can also be useful, but they can be a little hard to understand, especially the usual technique books you'll probably see mentioned here on technical subjects. They generally do describe the steps and figures pretty well, but it takes a little knowledge and practice to be able to read the books and understand what they're saying. Some books are easier to understand than others though, I'm sure. Another thing you could do is ask others to help teach you. When you're at some social dance and watching everyone dance, try asking a person or couple to show you a basic step or two. Most dancers are generally friendly and will try to help you if you ask. At the college night social dances I go to, we often see some people helping teach the basics to others. That's probably a little different atmosphere from what you'll encounter, but I think dancers are generally the same. If you ask for help, someone will probably be willing to try to give you some. And the best thing about this, from the learning aspect, is that you can get feedback on how you're doing -- something you won't normally get if you're forced to use books and videos to teach yourself.

Well, I hope this is of some help to you. Good luck, I hope you're able to find some suitable solution to your problem.

--
James Marshall
marshall@astro.umd.edu
http://www.astro.umd.edu/~marshall

re: when you must DIY - good tips?
Posted by phil.samways
7/18/2003  3:47:00 AM
There are some very good videos from Dancesport International, (try www.dancesport.uk.com for a list of them - they have a catalogue too)available in PAL (european) format - i think they'll play ok in Poland.
In fact they have an "absolute beginners" series which covers both standard (waltz, foxtrot etc)and latin.
I have the latin ones and am trying to learn from them. I'm an experienced standard dancer, but never learnt to jive or do rumba and samba!! I can tell you the latin videos are very easy to follow and i'm sure the standard videos will be too.
Dancing with other people when you have some basics will help you too. Don't be afraid to try - you've nothing to lose and everything to gain
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