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Re: I get dizzy doing the Viennese waltz
Posted by Serendipidy
12/9/2007  12:45:00 PM
Looking at my video on the V. Waltz by one of the worlds former best. The head stays in one position in relation to the body on the Natural Turns. It does not move about. The reason, the man in this instance, appears to be looking back down the LOD on the second half of the Natural is simply because of the position the body is. Which is first facing the centre. then the diagonal and then the LOD. The head staying to the left and turning only with the body. Also let us not forget that the sixth step is completely flat.
In he Reverse Turn the head again stays left.
Re: I get dizzy doing the Viennese waltz
Posted by DennisBeach
12/5/2007  8:27:00 PM
The change was was very quick and that convinced me the teacher was right. We danced a minute for the teacher and I was getting very dizzy. He spent some time working on the technique with us and than had us dance a series of turns. I did not get the least bit dizzy and as long as we move during the turns, dizziness has not been a problem.

If you move more you are changing the forces your brain is experiencing, that has a bearing on getting dizzy. Moving a small amount and turning, is like the kids thing of holding hands and spining around. That motion forces your brain towards the back of your head and gets you dizzy. Turning without moving, also seems not to cause dizziness as much as turning and moving a small amount.

Re: I get dizzy doing the Viennese waltz
Posted by Serendipidy
12/5/2007  9:39:00 PM
Here we are quoting articles and theorizing on the V Waltz and dizzyness. Wouldn't it be far easier if we try the expanded and the none expanded for ourselves. And then come back and tell us the results. Also you can keep those Fleckerl's as far as I am concerned. If your wish is to dance at Blackpool there is no V. Waltz so you can shove it.
Re: I get dizzy doing the Viennese waltz
Posted by operabob
12/8/2007  5:04:00 PM
Jonathon,

Not arguing with you.

Just commenting from my own experience.

If I spin tightly I definitely suffer from dizziness.

In Viennese never.

Perhaps it's a fixation thing for me. I'm not going to say definitively here as I'd need to analyze in practice instead of in front of a computer but when I think about it my gaze is not a continuous turn (as in spinning). In the Viennese it seems to me that what is happening is that I'm looking to one specific point in the room (in each group of three)then I fixate elsewhere on the next group.

That seems to be what we do in normal movement. Sitting here in front of the computer I'm fixating on one corner and switching to the next I don't seem to overly process the image in between as I move my eyes. But I also notice that my eyes blink as I do this.

Turning my head without blinking creates the blur I associate with dizziness.

This might be the clue: cognitively locking the gaze periodically such as consciously looking at one corner then the next, etc. instead of a continual blurring action. Zipping in and out of conciousness as it were.

OB
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