SocialDancer. I think you will find if you follow the man's steps through, and if we use alignments which in the Rumba there are none, but just to make it easier to follow. The man on at the end of step 3 has his feet together and is backing the centre. If he is the other way around he is backing the wall. Which ever way you are he now has 1/8 of a turn to the right which puts him on a diagnal line. The lady at the same time on the same step has an 1/8 of a turn to the left and she is going forward. If we both get into our positions without holding, having completed step 4. Now try to join hands as they should be as if we didn't let go. I think it makes for an ugly step. Maybe that's why the Professional don't do Hockey Stick Turns in their demonstrations.

Step 4 of the hocky stick isn't technically a fwd walk tng. Fwd walk tng is a technical term to describe the action used when turn occurs after initial foot placement, such as in step 5 of the ladys hockystick. step 4 is different this step is actually placed 1/8 to the left relative to the previous step.

the new istd and laird latin do seem to differ in the action used on step 4. the istd is a fwd walk tng, the laird technique uses a different action.

to me it seems odd to have a fwd walk tng when using the LF and tng to L.

this is because the turn will tend to move the left hip back not forwards and therefore the delayed turn of a fwd walk tng will tend to oppose to the normal hip action when moving fwds. the alternative avoids this because the turn and the hip action do not coincide.

i cannot think of any other examples of a fwd walk tng L on LF (or R on RF).