"But the point is they are dancing. I would believe they are also enjoying themselves having there lessons and competing. Short of there being no Pro/Am comps in the USA it is here to stay"

The whole essence of the thread is however that there are both ethical and unethical practices going on under the name of pro/am. It comes in so many different forms that categorical statements are essentially impossible.

you bring up a good point
there are a lot of terrible men who want to teach during group lessons rather than learn and they really need to be quiet and learn

How dare you get back to the topic!!

Do you mean that they're very poor dancers or despicable human beings?

I mean, someone who does not behave properly during a class may be rude and inconsiderate but terrible?

I reserve the word "terrible" for people who make coats out of puppy hides.



jj

I like tator tots and new crayons.

Thank you for this observation. Even though it is a challenge to dance with gentlemen less experienced, we all have to start some where. As long as they are trying to improve, more power to these men!!

Personally, I think men are so bad at times because they have to have a good teacher ...number one. I have seen teachers that are not as well trained as others so these men do not get good instruction

Number two:Any one taking lessons, you must realize that group lesson will not just due. You have to take private and also do group and also do parties to get to get the most out of the dance lessons.

Men have to dance and lead which is a bit harder. If you are out with a man and they aren't that good, maybe you could invite them with you to a private lesson and who knows, you might get a friend out of it.