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Set up between M&L
Posted by Don
6/12/2005  2:01:00 AM
We all know that the Tango has a different setup, ( body position between the man and the lady ). Is it the same setup in the Waltz as it is in the Quickstep, or is there a difference. If so what is the difference ?.
Re: Set up between M&L
Posted by Anonymous
6/12/2005  8:33:00 AM
For syllabus work it is the same or nearly so. Perhaps the connection feels a little higher in the body for quickstep since the swing is centered around a higher point meaning the bodies are always more vertical than in the waltz.

Many people have a looser hold in open quickstep... not that they should (sometimes it is really broken) but they often do.

In syllabus, all that outside partner can cause hold problems. In open, the introduction of promenade causes problems.
Re: Set up between M&L
Posted by Don
6/12/2005  10:53:00 PM
Anonymous. Higher contact point in Quickstep. Dead right and easily proved.
Stand in a setup for the Waltz. Now on the spot try a Pendelem points or a Woodpecker. Now get a higher contact point and try again. Which of the two is the most desirable. As for Promenades and so on. A gentleman by the name of Wally Fryer over 50 years ago said the lady has to be more to the man's right side to do the steps that was being introduced.
Re: Set up between M&L
Posted by Anonymous
6/12/2005  11:24:00 PM
More to the side, shure, that is fine.

But opening the tops so that the trailing shoulders break - that is simply unacceptable. But very, very common.
Re: Set up between M&L
Posted by Nod
6/13/2005  12:10:00 AM
Anonymous. By trailing shoulder breaks. Do you mean the lady is turning clockwise slightly away from the man. Which brings up the question . If we have a triangluar shape between the bodies at shoulder level. Which is the pointed side and which side is the base.
Re: Set up between M&L
Posted by Anonymous
6/13/2005  9:33:00 PM
We don't... it's a rhumbus that is very nearly a parallelogram.
Re: Set up between M&L
Posted by Nod
6/20/2005  7:19:00 AM
Anonymous. In modern the widest side is to the man's right. The lady has her left armpit on the man's right wrist. The narrowest side is on the man's left side. Thus the base of our supposed
triangle is too the man's right.
Re: Set up between M&L
Posted by Anonymous
6/20/2005  9:23:00 PM
I think you're confusing overshaping by the lady for the actual body positions.
Re: Set up between M&L
Posted by ylchen-1
6/13/2005  12:17:00 AM
Dear Don,
Please talk more about the setup in Tango, especially the lady part .
Thanks!
yiling.
Re: Set up between M&L
Posted by Puzzled
6/13/2005  1:38:00 AM
Don. Why do you write messages under other names?

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