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please describe "curving to "
Posted by ylchen-1
6/25/2005  11:42:00 PM
A quite stupid question : I can't understand what does it mean " right foot curvint to left . " ( V- waltz, closed change, reverse to natural ,on step 2 .)Thanks!
I am so excited , this video clip is very helpful for learning .
Re: please describe "curving to "
Posted by DanceFad
6/26/2005  3:00:00 AM
If you read and understand the alignments given with the Change Steps you should understand the term 'curving'.
Re: please describe "curving to "
Posted by ylchen-1
6/28/2005  3:18:00 AM
Dear Dancefad,
If I understood it as foot moving track in the room ?
Lady : LF back DC on 1, RF back curving to left, toward LOD on 2, LF closed to RF , backing LOD. There is a 1/8 right turn in closed change . Initially, lady faced DW against LOD, on 3, she faced against LOD. Please correct me. Thanks!
Re: please describe "curving to "
Posted by DanceFad
6/28/2005  9:42:00 AM
Yes, you have got it! Well done.
Re: please describe "curving to "
Posted by ylchen-1
6/28/2005  9:22:00 PM
Thanks for your encouragement .
Re: please describe "curving to "
Posted by Don
7/12/2005  9:06:00 PM
Yichen 1. You really do pick on some hard subjects to give advice on. The V Waltz for the man's alignment, believe it or not, starts facing Diag to Centre going into a Natural Turn. At the finish of a Natural Turn the man will be facing diag to Centre. The rotation of the body will then bring the next step of the Natural down the LOD to continue. So we have a deliberate under turning to compensate for the speed of the dance. If you ever dance in the British at Blackpool you wont have to do a V. Waltz. If you danced in the International in October. You would not have to do the V.Waltz untill the Semi Finals. That excludes most of the competitors. For my money if they danced the V Waltz straight out the door into oblivion I would shed no tears
Please don't ask how we get from Natural to Reverse. Just make sure that the man is not facing diagnal to the centre
Re: please describe "curving to "
Posted by ylchen-1
7/13/2005  5:18:00 AM
Dear Don, Sorry to bother you .
I am not sure if my understanding is correct . In my opinion, DC is 1/8 to Center and LOD. Dancers should move counterclockwise along the LOD to minimize collisions. So I interpreted " man starts facing diag to the center going into a Natural Turn .At the finish of Natural turn the man will be facing diag to Center." as follows : the man is not facing DC, he facing some angle between center and DC against LOD , or DC against LOD. so the right trun can travel counterclockwise but not clockwise. After 1-3, the body turn right 1/2, back the direction he started , He sould finish 1-6 then faces diagnally to Center again. (1/1) , depending on the rotaion of body we point free leg along LOD on 2 or 5, then closed feet with slight body turn on 3 and 6. Of course man can select a new angle to another LOD to start. such as DW etc. Correct me , if I absolutely wrong.
I like what you said " So we have a deliberate under turning to compensate the speed of dance."which open my mind.
Thanks.
Re: please describe "curving to "
Posted by Doug
7/13/2005  8:21:00 AM
Lichen, the Lady follows not leads, so why are you asking this question?
Re: please describe "curving to "
Posted by Anonymous
7/13/2005  10:29:00 AM
Doug. I'll give you one guess who Lichen is!
Re: please describe "curving to "
Posted by BronzeDancer
7/13/2005  10:19:00 PM
The VW naturals really do start and finish facing or backing genuine diagonal center, that was not a typo.

When you think about it, this is 1/8 turn less than the intended direction of movement, which is really the same windup as the body usually starts with in slow waltz naturals, where you would be planning to move DW but have the body wound up to LOD.

The difference is that in VW the feet are also under turned, whereas in the slow waltz only the body is under turned and the feet already point in the direction you will move.

Why the difference? Best guess is that VW requires the body and feet to turn more as a single unit, with less internal rotation between body and feet than there is time for in the slow waltz. I know one teacher who claims VW does not have CBM. This is of course false - what it does have less of is the internal twist used by that school to such great effect in the slower dances - the CBM is much closer to that used by the "curved track" people, which would not feel like CBM to a straight school person.

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