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Balance
Posted by Don
8/2/2005  9:01:00 PM
Bad balance is mostly caused by bad posture. Try this. Feet together arms straight down by the side with the thumbs on the seam of a pair of trousers. Now rise and fall as we would when we dancing. Put the thumbs further back. It is probably still comfortable, but now the chest is pushed forward, no good for dancing, big front , small back. Try putting the thumbs forward, with you does this create bad balance. It does with me. To me this proves how critical balance is. If I want to get as high on the toes as those we see on video. We can't if we are even slightly off balance. I was stuned by one of the top dancers, a male , I could see the whole sole of his shoes right to the toes as his feet came together. As Micheal Barr, the comentator for the Amatuer European and World Championships. He repeatadly says how strong the ankles and feet need to be. But without balance it will not happen no matter how strong you may be in the feet and ankles.
Re: Balance
Posted by Anonymous
8/2/2005  9:59:00 PM
Alignment of the body over the feet is one critical component of balance. But strength of the feet is another, no matter how good you are, sooner or later you will get a tiny bit off balance. Strong feet that can support your body weight at their extreme edges can help you move it back to the center, while weak feet can't. This isn't something you think about, it's something that just happens if your feet are strong enough and you think about aiming your weight for the right part of your foot.
Re: Balance
Posted by phil.samways
8/3/2005  4:13:00 AM
i have two points i'd like to bring up.
First, on balance. Yes, absolutely essential in any sport, especially dancing. As we get older, our balance can be more problematic. Injuries to the ankle and foot especially can affect balance in the long-term but the good news is that it is possible to improve your balance by re-educating the brain's response to nerve path-way signals from the feet. Here's a simple exercise given to me by a physio a few years ago when i injured a foot. I do this exercise pretty well every day:
Stand on one leg. Keep leg straight, not soft as in dancing. Arms out to the side, other leg bent and foot free (not jammed behind the standing leg - that's cheating!). Stand for 20-30 seconds, then close your eyes and keep your balance - if you can. Keep trying. Swap legs. I have found this very beneficial. However, it only trains STATIC balance. Dancing is a dynamic activity and 'balance' also includes good control of transference between energy of movement (kinetic energy) and body position (potential energy), especially in waltz
The second point, related to this first one, is on the comments about body rise onto the toes. Take the 1-2-3 of the natural turn in waltz. There is a huge kinetic energy at the end of beat 1. We've lowered from the previous beat 3, introducing some energy, and added to it with the drive on beat 1. This energy is carried into beat 2, then, as the left foot plants on a soft left leg, and we continue to rise on 3, this kinetic energy is transferred into potential energy and we rise higher than we would if we just pushed up with our legs. Don't underestimate the effect of this energy transference. Do the sums! Good technique allows smooth control of the transition, and, of course, a good long drive on beat 1 increases the effect. Next time you see beginners dancing, watch how they bob up and down without much benefit from this effect.
The dynamics of dancing are complex (because there are two people) and fascinating. There's room for serious research.
Re: Balance
Posted by ylchen
7/23/2006  11:44:00 PM
In my opeion, generally,the biggest energy ( dynamic energy , driving body weight away )generates at the moment on the end of 3 ( waltz ) . such as in natural turn. the following 1,2,3 as well as the stone horizontally threw to the river ... I noted also that I need to compress my BT actively to drive my body weight swinging far toward its position on the end of 4 in natural spin turn; end of 1 in open natural turn or chasse role or chasse from PP( lady ) ,rising occurs throughout 1 . I hard to say which time duration is the biggest energy generated in these particular figures . . Please talk more about this.
I love your idea about the use of sum effect and soft receiving foot to absorb body weight first then expell body weight out and there always is a room for refining and fasinating it is.
ylchen
Re: Balance
Posted by Don
7/24/2006  1:07:00 AM
Yichen. Something to watch for is using more towards the inside edges of your shoes.Anybody who strides more than they are capable will tend to go to an outside edge. Rumba Walks is one where it shows up. Men can take a bigger step ladies smaller because of the heel height. Higher the heel the smaller the step. Simple test . Go into a splitz position and watch that foot go to an outside edge without trying. Surprising how many people use an outside edge on a Spot Turn still.
Re: Balance
Posted by ylchen
7/25/2006  6:39:00 PM
Thanks Don. Strong ankle and keeping the straight line through the shoulder blade on same side leg and foot is the effective way to stand on out/edege of BT. I swung and turned on 4, 5 for natural spin turn torward the LOD, ( left BT back and slightly left on 5, turn , down on first half beat, then rising and out . I thought, the sumps effect ( phil said here ) from &( 3) to & ( 4) may be the way to expell me out easier and farther to fit my coach body swinging and long stride. He released more his abdility on last lesson, I felt I had to re-adjust myself to keep light connection and enough room. I had a little bit panic and tired when we repeated the routine. It is hard to do to bend big stride and smooth motion together and let it look easy. My God.
The exercise you mentioned is good for better balance and strong muscles , ligaments and ankles , even muscular memory. (I stood on suporting BT, upper limbs hung side ,closed eyes, lifted other knee for 2 bars, then swapped over . )
Outside edge of shoe can be used in particular line fingure , such as hinge . Our knees should be kept within feet . to avoid from ungly foot work and leg shaping or out of balance . The major suporting part is inner half ( 2-3 toes involved ) on the tips of BT .( little finger dose not touching floor at that moment , especial swinging to side way ) Bigger unit pressure has bigger reactive force to hlep lady extend her body and head line ,( such as at the moment on 3 , turning lock to right, ) in common situation , less unit pressure less soft tissue injury, I tranfer my Body weight from i/.e of BT to bt ( all toes without body weith out the gravity line of receiving leg ) on 5 ( natural turn.)
ylchen
Re: Balance
Posted by chantal
8/3/2005  11:45:00 AM
One of the thing that we learn in ballet, its to be aware of our little toe. When you rise, think of your little toe always touch the floor. That will help...
Re: Balance
Posted by Anonymous
8/3/2005  12:39:00 PM
"One of the thing that we learn in ballet, its to be aware of our little toe. When you rise, think of your little toe always touch the floor. That will help..."

I find this really puzzling. In a ballroom shoe there is now way your little toe would even be on the floor in the higher rise conditions. I know pointe shoes have a toe box that tries to equalize things, but all the way out to the little toe?

You do NOT want weight anywhere near the outside of your foot in ballroom rise - it's really centered at the big toe, and maybe the one next to it.
Re: Balance
Posted by chantal
8/3/2005  1:38:00 PM
No,no, not when your in point shoe, of course when your in point shoe all the weight is on your big toe. We talking balance, you need to be aware of your little toe when you are bare foot and you raise. You don't put your weight on your little toe, put you need to feel that all your foot touch the floor. Because balance is balance to do things like your dishes only on one leg is good. And when your good you can put it where you need it in dance in ski every where. bye bye.
Re: Balance
Posted by Marley
7/23/2006  8:24:00 PM
that is really wrong
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