Hello
Unfortunatly nobody could answer my questions so far. Anybody know that?

Q1. Why fishtail Lady first step is T? It is like check action, right? Guy do HT and I think Lady supports to do TH?

Q2. Why Bounce followaway lady change her head to right on step 2, but not fallaway reverse and slip pivot?

Q3. Four quick run is licentiate. Six quick run is fellow. What is the different between licentiate steps and fellow steps (yes, also associate)? Five step is fellow and four step is licentiate. five steps is much easyer than four step, right?

Q4, Standard open... American smooth open level can totally separate steps, collect? Standard never separate. How is the different close bronze and open bronze?

Thank you for reading. Have a wonderful dancing!

"Q1. Why fishtail Lady first step is T? It is like check action, right? Guy do HT and I think Lady supports to do TH?"

No, the lady's step is T. TH is used in two situations - the first when lowering from a rise(which doesn't apply here) and the second when sending the body weight into a backwards step with an underhanded rise, such as in a natural turn where we might see TH, NFR (no foot rise). In contrast, there the lady has foot rise on step one, and there is no need to send the body backwards from the foot. This gives a hint for why the man has HT - he has to get to his toe in order to create foot rise for this figure.

"Q2. Why Bounce followaway lady change her head to right on step 2, but not fallaway reverse and slip pivot?"

The ISTD book does not specify the lady's head position for these or any other figures. It is nievely a persnal stylistic choice, or with more detailed understanding a consequence of the personally chosen dynamics of motion. Ask whoever told you to dance these figures with these head positions to explain how they are connected to their choices in interpretation of the figures.

Mina. That's a good one. Fishtail. Ladies steps are all toes untill the sixth step which is TH. seventh step back LF is another toe. Don't ask why, thats the way its always been. The guys
steps are HT. then all toes till the sixth step which is TH. seven is a Heel
outside partner. I don't get the ladies step seven as being a Toe. with the man a Heel. But that's straight from my book. P.S. You have to lift your body at the end of step one.

Don, step seven is given incomplete. The reason it is in the book is to illustrate the outside partner action that must follow the fishtail, but they don't know if that will be a natural figure with upswing or a flat connector to a reverse figure or even another fishtail, so they can't give footwork past the part of the foot which touches first - heel for man, toe for lady. The complete footwork for step seven depends on which is chosen - you might think that the man's toe will lower regardless and it will, but in some actions the timing of the movement through the foot is after the official end of the step, so it's given as H only.

Suomynona. I can see the point. But it must seem a bit strange the the lady is up and the man obviously down on the last step. It does seem as though it is a preperation for another Fishtail Those poor books .How we pull them apart. The young lady Mina who asked a few questions, if she reads this might be interested to know that in his book Len Scriviner wrote that he has not met any professional teacher who doesn't think that to keep the ladies head to her left is more comforable dancewise than to be in promenade when dancing the Whisk. And after after all a Fallaway is really a Back Whisk Position
So one can please themselves, especialy if they want to look different.

"I can see the point. But it must seem a bit strange the the lady is up and the man obviously down on the last step."

No, the lady is not up, see the rise and fall column. What the notation of "T" means is that the lady's weight is still in the toe of the foot - it has not moved to the heel, because the timing with which it does so is dependent on the full action of the next step as appropriate to the next figure. If it's a natural turn, her footwork would become TH, No foot rise, but if it's another fishtail she will spring up from the toe of the foot, and if it's a connector to a reverse figure her weight will stay in the toe until after the left foot passes and only reach the heel after the official end of the step, hence the position of heel is never actually given.

"Len Scriviner wrote that he has not met any professional teacher who doesn't think that to keep the ladies head to her left is more comforable dancewise than to be in promenade when dancing the Whisk."

Yes, the classic masters often taught this way for the first few months. That doesn't mean they stay that way forever, but it does illustrate how there is no requirement to turn the head over at all.

Suomynone. I see what you mean about the footwork in the Fishtail, it is so easy to misinterpret reading from a book. Have a look at Mina above. Can you answer her question 3. Nobody else has.

Well the man's given first step of the six quick run is puzzling, it looks like it might be a typo in the punctuation.

It's given as T, but rise is "Rise e/o preceding step. NFR Up."

I doubt they are implying NFR on a T step (though it is possible) more likely the NFR was meant to modify the "Rise e/o preceding step" as it is quite logical to execute the preceding step TH but with rise NFR (ie, push out out of the heel - we see this same action when 2-12 V6 is preceded by a spin turn)

I just want to say thank you for your time. All your response inspire me a lot.

oh!BTW different between bronze and open bronze. my friend said that the diffrent was bronze has age category at pro/am, but open bronze has no age category. That's the diffrent.

anyway thanks again and happy dancing

Mina :)

When it comes to what is allowed for pro/am competitions, it's often a good idea to check with the competition organizers because things vary so much.

When I was doing Pro/Am, "Open Bronze" meant that you could dance Bronze steps and some Silver steps, and so that category was considered a "bridge" between Bronze and Silver. It was still divided up by sex and age sub-category, just like the rest of the Pro/Am syllabus events.