Hi to Everyone. Can anyone explain to me why step 4 of a Hockey Stick in the Rumba is not classed as a fwd walk turning when danced by a woman. Thanks in advance.

How are you counting?

The lady turns after stepping onto her right foot, on 3& of the second measure which I would probablly call step 5.

It is a common mistake for ladies to turn a step early (on 2&, which may feel familiar as it's the timing of an alemana).

LatinBod. It has to be that the 5th step we turn at the end of and not into.
There is 3/8th of a turn on that step.

Hi,
The 5th step is not in question. The lady's 4th she makes an 1/8 to the L. Once again, can anyone tell me why it's not a forward walk turning. By the way, Don. 3/8 to L IDTA and the UKA, but 1/2 to L ISTD.

Latin bod. Looking at the IDTA and knowing Wally Laird was a very clever man it still has something to do with the turn by the lady. There is an 1/8 of a turn by the lady on step four.
On a tape by Donnie Burns and Gaynor on step four she is still facing her front with her right arm and hand across her left shoulder, in that position still backing partner she places the RF and turns. So there it is, your guess is as good as mine. Its a bit the same in Foxtrot Feather Step. In the manual it has four steps. The fourth step becoming the first of the Reverse Turn. Who can make any sense out of that one.

Don, don't you ever read a message correctly. I'm not referring to STEP 5 but STEP 4, I'll say again STEP 4. The lady makes an 1/8 to the L. Why is it not called a forward walk TURNING? What the feather step has got to do with it I don't know.

Latin Bob. Where step 5 is placed infuences step 4. The bit about the Feather was to show how not all that is written is easily understood. If you did not understand I'm sorry it went over your head. An 1/8th of a turn is not classed as turn I would say.. The body is not turning but is moving in a dirction. If the correct hip movement is used on 3 which is four hip, then step four must have a new alignment.1/8th in the new direction from the 4 1. To go through the whole box and dice the foot position on 5 will tell that a turn has been made followed by a Backward Walk on step 6.

Well, you have lost me on that explanation.

Quickstep. Its easy if you can think of 1/8 of a turn as just veering into a slightly new direction. If this is followed by a 1/2 a turn, that is a turn.
Another way to put it in everyday language. If you were driving a car and your passanger said bare left here and turn at the end of the street. There it is. When writting the book they probably did not think it necessary to write more on what is common sense.

Don,
So why is step 4 not written as a fwd walk turning? By the way. Your earlier message started of giving the rhythm in half beats (2.&.)then moved onto a full beat (4) then a teaching cue (Hip.) Weird! Who are you trying to impress!?